[wplug] [wplug-announce] Installfest this weekend

[O'Connor, Michael P.]

Ok so there is no "FULL" cd, but will some one have a cd I can use to
start a net install?

Michael P. O'Connor
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[mailto:wplug-bounces+mpoconnor=switch.com at wplug.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
J. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:48 AM
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Subject: RE: [wplug] [wplug-announce] Installfest this weekend

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, O'Connor, Michael P. wrote:
> Will any one have FC7 on CD there? ( my system does not have a DVD
> drive in it)

The only CDs the Fedora Project is now producing as of Fedora 7 (no
more Core) are the "Live" CDs.  Although you can use "Revisor" and 
other tools to spin all sorts of CD, DVD, etc... sets.

They are only now providing a DVD, and that still doesn't include
everything.  Last time I checked, it's largely being provided for
upward compatibility for upgraders from prior RHL/FC.

I've been doing NFS-based installs since Red Hat Linux 6 though. 
Just easier, and I can roll in my own updates.  Now that YUM is in
the stock Anaconda, the point is far more moot as well.

Alternatively you can plunk the DVD .iso in a filesystem (even FAT)
and pull it from the local hard drive.  That is fastest in many
cases.

> (and NO I am not interested in changing distros, so please don't
> try to suggest another one, I am happy with FC and going to just
> stick with it)

But don't you want to try "Super-Happy-Fun-Distro"?  It's better!  ;)

Yeah, I get it all-the-time too, especially since people think I'm a
"noob."

I run Fedora (Staple Desktop/Workstation sometimes Server, although
RHEL/CentOS typically there), Gentoo (Leading Edge Development),
Debian (Various Reasons) and Xubuntu (Older Desktops) in order of
number of systems.  I remember many Mandrake users trying to convert
me in the past from Red Hat Linux / Fedora Core.  Now there is no end
of Ubuntu users who say I shouldn't support Debian (and I do run
Xubuntu).

I left the "marketing" back in the commercial world.  ;)


Pat Barron <pat at tiderium.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, I probably won't be there, or I'd be happy to bring
> you a Fedora 7 Live CD.  The Live CD can be used to do a
> network-based install (with a core set of installable packages
> on the CD itself, and the rest pulled down from the net).
> That's about the best you can do, since the Fedora Project has
> discontinued producing full distributions on CD.

The DVD still isn't the "full" either (or what they call "Everything"
now ;).  So, in actuality, there is no more "full" Fedora officially
released on any media.  But that's where "Revisor" and other tools
come in, of course.  ;)

Ahhh, Fedora finally joined the modern Linux redistribution era
completely (and are actually doing some things better IMHO, and worse
in others -- but I'm not going down that opinionated road ;).  I just
like being able to roll out Fedora, including over-the-Internet
installs, additional repositories, as well as easier to make media
distributions, like Debian prior.  I could always do NFS installs,
but now it's far more flexible.

> With a fast network connection, I've had really good success
> installing Fedora 7 from the "minimal" CD boot image.  The ISO
> image is less than 8 megabytes, you can burn it to CD and boot
> from it.

Yep.  That, as well as the ~10MB .img for USB keys.  I have 32MB
cheap USB keys for a reason -- Kickstarts!

I've rebuilt newer Fedora Anaconda with RHEL packages -- makes RHEL
much, much easier/more flexible to install at Enterprises.

> It pulls down absolutely everything it needs over the net, and
> installs that way.  If you're just installing one system, and
> have a cable modem or something, you might find this to be the
> path of least resistance.

Yeah.  And for multiple systems, mirroring the "Everything" directory
is probably better.  But then you can retarget your repositories to
it.

> You can get the minimal boot image from one of the distribution
> mirrors.  Here's an example -
http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/
boot.iso
> You have to point the installer to the full URL to the distribution
> of whatever mirror you are using.  In this case, it would be:
> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os
> The installer brings down whatever it needs as it's running.

Fedora 5, 6 and finally 7 finally got this to where it needed to be. 
They are further addressing little details in Fedora 8.

And the results are things like the Creative Commons choosing Fedora.


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Bryan J. Smith   Professional, Technical Annoyance
b.j.smith at ieee.org    http://thebs413.blogspot.com
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