[wplug] case utility
Freisleben, Kayln
Kayln.Freisleben at ddiworld.com
Sun Apr 3 21:02:28 EDT 2005
Does anyone know of a utility that will rip through a program and match the case of the program call with the file being called?
Thanks,
Kayln Freisleben
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5. Re: BSD help? (Zachary Uram)
6. Re: BSD help? (Michael Semcheski)
7. Re: BSD help? (Cameron McBride)
8. Re: Why is there no meeting today? (Mark Sikora)
9. Backing up Mac OS X to Linux (John Harrold)
10. Re: Backing up Mac OS X to Linux (Mark Dalrymple)
11. Re: Backing up Mac OS X to Linux (Moshe Katz-Hyman)
12. RE: BSD help? (Petrucci, Joseph)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 12:10:59 -0500
From: Jonathan Billings <jsbillings at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wplug] Why is there no meeting today?
To: General user list <wplug at wplug.org>
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On Apr 2, 2005 9:05 AM, Mark Sikora <markys at comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm glad I checked the website.
Meeting times are posted well in advance. They're announced on the
mailing list. One shouldn't just assume that the meetings are going
to occur on the first saturday of the month. Sometimes it's not
possible to have the room available on the first saturday of the
month. Sometimes scheduling conflicts lead to different times.
--
Jonathan Billings
jsbillings at gmail.com
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 13:16:29 -0500
From: "Michael A. Smith" <michael at smith-li.com>
Subject: [wplug] Windows is more secure than linux...
To: wplug at wplug.org
Message-ID: <424EE17D.8040900 at smith-li.com>
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...if you leave it disconnected from the network, keyboard, and mouse.
(made you look.)
Here's some ammo for the counter-argument:
http://www.eeproductcenter.com/analog/review/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=160400770
Enjoy,
Mike
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:16:54 -0500
From: Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com>
Subject: [wplug] BSD help?
To: wplug at wplug.org
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Well this is my first exposure to BSD. I recently got a FreeSBIE 1.1 live CD.
Apparently this live distro is based on FreeBSD 5.3
Can this can install to my hard drive?
How can I setup LILO to boot up BSD or must BSD use it's own boot loader?
Right now I have LILO setup to do a Linux/Windows98 dual boot.
Also can anyone point me to some recommended resources (esp. online)
to get me started in BSD from both a user and sysadmin perspective?
Thanks!
Zach
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:17:06 -0500
From: Michael Semcheski <lists at immuneit.com>
Subject: Re: [wplug] BSD help?
To: Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com>, General user list
<wplug at wplug.org>
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Zachary Uram wrote:
> Can this can install to my hard drive?
I don't know about this, but you'll probably have good luck with the
latest release ISO (5.3, I think).
> How can I setup LILO to boot up BSD or must BSD use it's own boot
> loader? Right now I have LILO setup to do a Linux/Windows98 dual
> boot.
I don't know about LILO, but this is what's in my grub.conf:
title=Gentoo
root (hd2,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.9 root=/dev/sdb3
title=FreeBSD
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
chainloader +1
title=Windows 2000
rootnoverify(hd0,1)
chainloader + 1
makeactive
So you can see some of the differences between Linux, Windows, and BSD.
Note that you're using Linux and Windows 98, I'm using 2k.
The setup for FreeBSD and Windows 2000 are very similar. (Obviously
they're on different drives). The chainloader +1 is basically telling
grub to pass off the boot sequence to another loader, rather than
loading the kernel directly. I think. Windows 2000 needs 'makeactive'
for one reason or another. FreeBSD doesn't.
When I select FreeBSD from the grub menu, FreeBSD's bootloader starts
works just fine. By default, if you don't press a key for 10 seconds it
boots your default kernel. So it feels like the only time I have to
make a choice at bootup is in grub (unless I want the default).
> Also can anyone point me to some recommended resources (esp. online)
> to get me started in BSD from both a user and sysadmin perspective?
> Thanks!
Go to freebsd.org, and look at the handbook. Its very good, and if you
read from the start to the finish as you're setting up your machine,
you'll be in very good shape.
Then, when you become a full fledged demon lover, check out the Design
and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System (Addison-Wesley).
Mike
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 14:27:26 -0500
From: Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wplug] BSD help?
To: Michael Semcheski <lists at immuneit.com>
Cc: General user list <wplug at wplug.org>
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On Apr 2, 2005 2:17 PM, Michael Semcheski <lists at immuneit.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know about this, but you'll probably have good luck with the
> latest release ISO (5.3, I think).
Hi Mike,
Thanks but as I don't have broadband nor a CD burner this live CD is
my sole BSD disc :)
> I don't know about LILO, but this is what's in my grub.conf:
Is grub better than LILO? Why not use LILO?
> Go to freebsd.org, and look at the handbook. Its very good, and if you
> read from the start to the finish as you're setting up your machine,
> you'll be in very good shape.
>
> Then, when you become a full fledged demon lover, check out the Design
> and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System (Addison-Wesley).
Thanks!
Zach
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:38:22 -0500
From: Michael Semcheski <lists at immuneit.com>
Subject: Re: [wplug] BSD help?
To: Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com>
Cc: General user list <wplug at wplug.org>
Message-ID: <424EF4AE.60404 at immuneit.com>
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Zachary Uram wrote:
> Is grub better than LILO? Why not use LILO?
To me, a bootloader is something that you don't interact with very
often, except maybe when the power goes out during those August
thunderstorms.
I have not put much thought into LILO vs. Grub, maybe someone else on
the list does know.
I would be extremely surprised if LILO did not work along side FreeBSD,
and I certainly am averse to going through the trouble of chaning
something like a bootloader.
For one, you only see it once a year.
Second, if you screw it up, you really wish you hadn't.
Third, there is no third.
Mike
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 14:38:50 -0500
From: Cameron McBride <cameron.mcbride at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wplug] BSD help?
To: Zachary Uram <netrek at gmail.com>, General user list
<wplug at wplug.org>
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> Is grub better than LILO? Why not use LILO?
they do the same thing. grub is a bit more "modern". I think the
main selling point that people often cite is that one can just edit
the grub.conf file and the system is still bootable (and not have to
reinstall the MBR image as LILO requires on a change).
Honestly, I changed from LILO->grub simply because the default
bootloader changed on distros I use. I've been happy with both of
them. I must admit, however, that it is mildly annoying to make an
unbootable system just cause I forgot to run a lilo command.
Cameron
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:36:56 -0500
From: Mark Sikora <markys123451 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wplug] Why is there no meeting today?
To: Jonathan Billings <jsbillings at gmail.com>, General user list
<wplug at wplug.org>
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On Apr 2, 2005 12:10 PM, Jonathan Billings <jsbillings at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2005 9:05 AM, Mark Sikora <markys at comcast.net> wrote:
> > I'm glad I checked the website.
>
> Meeting times are posted well in advance. They're announced on the
> mailing list. One shouldn't just assume that the meetings are going
> to occur on the first saturday of the month. Sometimes it's not
> possible to have the room available on the first saturday of the
> month. Sometimes scheduling conflicts lead to different times.
>
> --
> Jonathan Billings
> jsbillings at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
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>
I think this time it was cause of the Cleveland installfest. Eh?
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 21:15:09 -0500
From: John Harrold <jmh17 at pitt.edu>
Subject: [wplug] Backing up Mac OS X to Linux
To: western PA LUG <wplug at wplug.org>
Message-ID: <20050403021508.GB12973 at sage.che.pitt.edu>
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I have a powerbook that I'm using as my primary computer. I have a file
server running Debian/Sarge at home that I'd like to use to backup
different files on my laptop. Ordinarily, I'd just use rsync over ssh, or
unison if i change files on both computer simultaneously. However, the
native file system on macs (HFS+ I believe) has something called resource
forks. As I understand it, Because of these resource forks, things like
rsync don't work correclty. Since I normally use the wireless network and
I'd like to back things up nightly, I'd like to use something like rsync to
just transfer the files that have changed. Does anyone have any suggestions
for backing up OS X to a Linux machine preferably over ssh.
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Message: 10
Date: 3 Apr 2005 02:22:24 -0000
From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple)
Subject: Re: [wplug] Backing up Mac OS X to Linux
To: wplug at wplug.org
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> Does anyone have any suggestions
> for backing up OS X to a Linux machine preferably over ssh.
a couple of URLs:
http://www.quesera.com/reynhout/misc/rsync+hfsmode/
http://xnews.soad.umich.edu/RsyncX_Forums/index.php?topic=33.msg40
Haven't used them (I use rsyncx between two OS X systems)
Cheers,
++Mark Dalrymple. markd at badgertronics.com. http://badgertronics.com
"If that job was left to me, it would only be a matter of time before
my daughter was dirty at the same time as the dishwasher was empty,
and I would get a great idea for how to save a little time."
-- Jeff Vogel
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 21:46:14 -0500
From: Moshe Katz-Hyman <moshe at temple.edu>
Subject: Re: [wplug] Backing up Mac OS X to Linux
To: General user list <wplug at wplug.org>
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There is also a tool called hfstar that will write standard .tar files
with the extra fork stored as an extra file in the .tar archive. You
can then restore the files back to your powerbook with hfstar if need
be.
Moshe
On Apr 2, 2005, at 9:15 PM, John Harrold wrote:
> I have a powerbook that I'm using as my primary computer. I have a file
> server running Debian/Sarge at home that I'd like to use to backup
> different files on my laptop. Ordinarily, I'd just use rsync over ssh,
> or
> unison if i change files on both computer simultaneously. However, the
> native file system on macs (HFS+ I believe) has something called
> resource
> forks. As I understand it, Because of these resource forks, things like
> rsync don't work correclty. Since I normally use the wireless network
> and
> I'd like to back things up nightly, I'd like to use something like
> rsync to
> just transfer the files that have changed. Does anyone have any
> suggestions
> for backing up OS X to a Linux machine preferably over ssh.
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> | /"\
> john harrold | \ / ASCII ribbon campaign
> jmh at member.fsf.org | X against HTML mail
> the most useful idiot | / \
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans,
> and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is brought
> under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of
> liberty and democracy?
> --Gandhi
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 08:40:06 -0400
From: "Petrucci, Joseph" <Joseph.Petrucci at ddiworld.com>
Subject: RE: [wplug] BSD help?
To: "Cameron McBride" <cameron.mcbride at gmail.com>, "General user list"
<wplug at wplug.org>, "Zachary Uram" <netrek at gmail.com>, "General user
list" <wplug at wplug.org>
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Here are some sites I found on the subject
COmparison of 6 boot loaders
http://www.frozentech.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=3&Itemid=
General info on Multi-boot
http://www.uit.co.uk/practical-tcpip/w-mulboot-032.pdf
How to dual boot freeBSD, LInux wit GRUB
http://geodsoft.com/howto/dualboot/
Joseph A. Petrucci
E Systems DBA
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From: wplug-bounces+joseph.petrucci=ddiworld.com at wplug.org on behalf of Cameron McBride
Sent: Sat 4/2/2005 2:38 PM
To: Zachary Uram; General user list
Subject: Re: [wplug] BSD help?
> Is grub better than LILO? Why not use LILO?
they do the same thing. grub is a bit more "modern". I think the
main selling point that people often cite is that one can just edit
the grub.conf file and the system is still bootable (and not have to
reinstall the MBR image as LILO requires on a change).
Honestly, I changed from LILO->grub simply because the default
bootloader changed on distros I use. I've been happy with both of
them. I must admit, however, that it is mildly annoying to make an
unbootable system just cause I forgot to run a lilo command.
Cameron
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