[wplug] RE: wplug digest, Vol 1 #1117 - 19 msgs
jack earl
jackearl4 at hotmail.com
Sat Jan 31 12:49:13 EST 2004
this is my first real reply, Beth lynn, instead why do you not put the web
site you have to work, instead of sending out a news letter, start a new
form with the months infor, long or short, and picutrues down the sides with
speaker and people that come to the meeting. this is always a nice touch,
and you can open up lots of different ave. for speech and forms,
the inportant part is that the membership would have this libary of infor
for people to go back on and the same answer would not be getting answered
over and 0ver,
but please not me, my writing skill are the greatest in the world, wish they
were better, but you need some one that this come second nature to. that
way you will see the love they have for it in thier work, and i will be
bringing the donuts on saturday,
bye Beth Lynn : 0
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. Dell laptops vs. Thinkpads (was RE: [wplug] eMachines? ) (Bryon
>Gill)
> 2. volunteers needed for wplug newsletter (Beth Lynn)
> 3. Dell: Re: [wplug] eMachines? (Brian Sammon)
> 4. laptop manufacturers Re: [wplug] eMachines? (Brian Sammon)
> 5. Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi Graphics
>(Jennifer Landefeld)
> 6. Re: eMachines? (Carl Benedict)
> 7. Re: Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi Graphics
>(John Harrold)
> 8. Re: Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi Graphics
>(Michael M Delaney)
> 9. Re: Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi
> Graphics (Brian Sammon)
> 10. Re: Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi
> Graphics (Brian Sammon)
> 11. Re: Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi
> Graphic (Bryon Gill)
> 12. Lindows on P2P (Vanco, Don)
> 13. Re: eMachines? (Phil)
> 14. Re: eMachines? (Joe)
> 15. Re: Lindows on P2P (techmike)
> 16. RE: Lindows on P2P (Ghataora, Hardeep)
>
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>
>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:47:09 -0500 (EST)
>From: Bryon Gill <bgtrio at yahoo.com>
>To: "'wplug at wplug.org'" <wplug at wplug.org>
>Subject: Dell laptops vs. Thinkpads (was RE: [wplug] eMachines? )
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Vanco, Don wrote:
>
> > wplug-admin at wplug.org wrote:
> > > Quick afterthought though, I have heard some new ThinkPads don't play
> > > nice with ACPI, which could be a problem for running Linux.
>
>I've got a Dell inspiron 2650 (1.6Ghz Celeron, 32M Nvidia, 256M RAM) that
>I picked up new for $650. It's a behemoth at 8 pounds or so, but it's
>been very reliable for me for the year or so that I've owned it now. In
>fact, it's been my main computer at work for the past 6 months and I've
>had no troubles with the hardware except for the ACPI support. It's
>getting there, but I still can't suspend properly for instance. It used
>to sort of work with an earlier kernel, but the fans kept running. As of
>the 2.6 kernel at least I've got a working battery monitor, and I've got
>throttling working but that seems to be more suited to a server. On the
>other hand, it's great to have as an extra computer for lan gaming- it
>runs Warcraft III (Winex) and NWN (Native/SDL) very nicely.
>
>I've also owned a few thinkpads in my day, although no recent ones. I
>still have an older 200Mhz Pentium thinkpad with no cdrom or floppy drive
>on board. It's light as a feather at only 4 pounds and it makes a great
>terminal to lug around. APM support worked perfectly.
>
>So there you go. The Dell laptop was quite a bargain, but I've had
>compatibility issues and the thing is very heavy to lug around. Someone
>said that the Thinkpad was worth the extra money, but a) I didn't *have*
>that kind of money at the time and b) this laptop, minor irritations
>
>
>Bryguy
>
> > There was a kernel update to Centrino support recently, this might
> > help.... there were lots of non-functional things there.... but I know
> > that "user friendly" ACPI support is still a bit shaky.
> > Interesting duality with IBM there - they're kicking out Microsoft
> > all over the place, but the laptops are still owned by the OS. Intel
>really
> > dropped the ball on supporting Centrino anywhere but under Windoze.
> >
> > > But, I've
> > > had no problems with my 1400i-2612 purchased in '99. I actually get
> > > better battery life with Linux than with WinXP, which is
> > > weird but I'm
> > > not complaining (of course the battery isn't 5 years old).
> > I've always had better battery life under Linux.
> >
> > Don
> > _______________________________________________
> > wplug mailing list
> > wplug at wplug.org
> > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug
> >
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:14:57 -0500 (EST)
>From: Beth Lynn <bethlynn at wplug.org>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: [wplug] volunteers needed for wplug newsletter
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>Hello,
>
>It has been suggested that WPLUG should have a newsletter.
>
>The point of the newsletter would be a monthly way to share
>news from a WPLUG-er's point of view. This would not be a
>replacement for any of the mailing lists but a separate resource
>for our members. It is meant for folks to sit back and read
>and enjoy and not a media for discussions.
>
>Types of articles we would like to see
>+ local tech news
>+ international/intergalactic Linux and Open Source news
>+ short how-to's
>+ book and product reviews
>+ club news and upcoming events
>+ pictures and minutes from meetings
>+ anti M$ or SCO rants
>+ screen shots
>+ wplug at wplug.org post of the month
>+ advertising (perhaps we're getting ahead of ourselves here)
>
>Reasons why this would be cool
>+ Some folks find the content of list overwhelming since they do
>not have that much time or they do not have that much time online.
>This would be a way to feel like they are still participating in
>the community even though they don't read every list post.
>+ If there is demand, we can distribute in hard copy and on the web.
>wplug-announce at wplug.org will be notified when the new addition is out.
>+ If we do hard copy, we can leave some copies places were geeks
>are likely to hang out. It would be good for outreach.
>+ This would be an additional aspect of our community. Some of our
>members are unable to come to meetings and it would be a great way
>to include them.
>+ I suspect there are members who don't do public speaking and/or
>they can't make it to meetings but have some technical knowledge
>that they would like to share.
>+ This would create a forum for book and product reviews. In the past
>O'Reilly has given us free books, but we are supposed to write
>*something* for a review.
>+ articles could be a few sentences or up to a page
>
>In order for this to *happen* we need folks like you to *volunteer*
>First of all, we would need an editor, you know, someone to take the
>stories and put it all together and keep track of who promised to write
>what. Then of course we need people to write stuff. Articles from
>regular contributors and one-time contributors would be accepted.
>Once that's done we will need people to publish and distribute.
>
>Yup, it's all a pretty big job but it would be all worth-wile if you
>answer yes to any of the following questions.
>Do you miss Pittsburgh Computer User?
>Do you want to see news articles about who's using Linux and why in Western
>PA?
>Do you see this as a good way our community can expand?
>Would you read these articles?
>Would you write these articles?
>
>I personally would like to be a regular contributor but we still need
>an editor and other writers to make this happen. I'm willing to collect
>email addresses of those who are interested in this project until someone
>steps forward to be editor. email me bethlynn at wplug.org if interested
>
>Keep in mind, this would be your newsletter so anything goes we'll see
>what happens. So there you have it. I'll turn it over for discussion
>to this list.
>
>Thanks,
>Beth Lynn
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>From: Brian Sammon <brians+ at cs.cmu.edu>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: Dell: Re: [wplug] eMachines?
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:28:03 -0500
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
> > That kind of support only comes to those (usually companies) who spend
> > $. This could be bs, but I was once told that Dell has a sliding scale
> > for support -- they ask for your name and address, then they call up how
> > much you've spent in the last x months. How high that $ amount is
> > determines where your call gets connected to. So Grandma with her $349
> > Celeron system gets a guy reading a script 10,000 miles away.
>
>I think they use caller ID for this as well.
>On one occasion I called Dell for help with my personal computer (which was
>under warranty) from a CMU phone. I never told them I was affiliated with
>CMU. I had great service from them, culminating in them volunteering to
>send
>me a part I needed for free (just a $5 or so video adaptor).
>I haven't tried calling them from home for support.
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 4
>From: Brian Sammon <brians+ at cs.cmu.edu>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: laptop manufacturers Re: [wplug] eMachines?
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:44:09 -0500
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
> > Well, at the end of the day there are really only a few laptop
> > reference designers - I have heard as few as 4, but believe it to be
>more
> > like 6 - saying under 10 is a safe bet. They're all out of Taiwan. Not
>
>I've stumbled across one of these:
>The Compal N30 series--the basis for the Inspiron 5000 and 5000e and
>various
>other lesser-known brand/models.
>http://kropf.net/i5000/
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:42:50 -0500
>Cc: Jennifer Landefeld <jennsbl at jennsbl.com>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>From: Jennifer Landefeld <jennsbl at jennsbl.com>
>Subject: [wplug] Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi
>Graphics
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>Hi All,
>
>I've got a request to attempt to remedy video issues by installing a
>commercial X server from XI Graphics (see quote from requester below).
>Anyone familiar with this X server? Any reason I shouldn't switch him
>to this that you know of?
>
> > he switched from the standard X server RedHat provides to a commercial
> > X server from Xi Graphics, all his display problems went away. He
> > recommends we give it a try. They offer downloadable 30 day trial
> > copies for free at their web site, xig.com.
> >
>
>
>Thanks!
>jenn
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 6
>Subject: Re: [wplug] eMachines?
>From: Carl Benedict <cbenedic at pittsburghtechs.com>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:13:48 -0500
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>I've been using Dell laptops for the last 4 years or so. I have a CPi
>233, which I bought from eBay. It has never failed on me, but it does
>have a few issues:
>
>1) touch pad pointer "floats"
>2) on occasion, locks up if moved
>3) the ] key is stuck
>4) some minor case cracking on the screen top
>
>These are all common problems w/ Dells, and my laptop is showing its
>age. I still think that these are decent laptops for moderate use.
>When I was at Fore / Marconi, everything was Apple, then Compaq, then
>Dell. I still prefer Dell (call me biased ;) ). Dell seems to always
>be able to offer expandability and compatibility with decent prices. I
>also like the ease at which you can work on Dells (opening cases, part
>removal). Then again, anyone who remembers the Packard Bell PCs or the
>OLD Dell 486 desktops would feel the same! :)
>
>--
>Carl Benedict
>Pittsburgh Techs
>Main: 724-741-0233
>http://www.pittsburghtechs.com
>cbenedic at pittsburghtechs.com
>
>On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 10:45, Jason Dunn wrote:
> > I have to agree with this. I work at Penn State and see many many
> > computers, especially laptops, and the ones that always last are the
> > IBM's over Dell's. I use a Dell laptop and an IBM laptop and the Dell
> > is currently in for service for a floating pointer (which I've seen many
> > others do also) and a busted CD/DVD drive. Whereas my IBM has been put
> > through the rigors of being pretty mobile just like my Dell and I've had
> > absolutely no problems with it. Dell laptops just don't seem to hold up
> > as well construction wise.
> >
> > I must say however, that when my Dell works, it's great, but IBM gets my
> > vote for reliability.
> >
> > Jason Dunn
> >
> > Ryan W. Frenz wrote:
> >
> > >
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Personally, I would never buy a Dell unless I couldn't build the
>machine
> > > myself. (May end up buying a lappy from them)
> > >
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > As far as laptops go, in my experience IBMs are well worth the extra
> > > money. Most dells are exactly what they claim -- "desktop
> > > replacements" -- if you plan on actually being mobile with it, I
> > > haven't seen them hold up too well. Mostly dumb problems like
> > > floating pointers, keys getting stuck, etc. Example -- I've had an
> > > IBM thinkpad for 5 years now. I've never had one hardware issue with
> > > it. My brother has had a Dell Inspiron 8100 for 1.5 years, and he's
> > > had: a fried mobo, dead USB controller out of the box, and a floppy
> > > drive that stopped working. You might not be getting cheaper parts
> > > per se, but with a Dell you definitely get cheaper construction.
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > wplug mailing list
> > > wplug at wplug.org
> > > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > wplug mailing list
> > wplug at wplug.org
> > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:18:02 -0500
>From: John Harrold <jmh17 at pitt.edu>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: Re: [wplug] Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi
>Graphics
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>
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>Sometime in January Jennifer Landefeld assaulted the keyboard and produced:
>
>| Hi All,
>|=20
>| I've got a request to attempt to remedy video issues by installing a=20
>| commercial X server from XI Graphics (see quote from requester below).=20
>| Anyone familiar with this X server? Any reason I shouldn't switch him=20
>| to this that you know of?
>
>i've never heard of it, but what's the issue?
>
>
>--=20
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | /"\
> john harrold | \ / ASCII ribbon campaign
> jmh at member.fsf.org | X against HTML mail
> the most useful idiot | / \
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless,
> whether the mad destruction is brought under the name of totalitarianism
>or
> the holy name of liberty and democracy?
> --Gandhi
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>
>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:45:46 -0500 (EST)
>From: Michael M Delaney <mmdst23+ at pitt.edu>
>Subject: Re: [wplug] Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi
>Graphics
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>I've heard of it, it at one point had better support for some cards that
>didn't have X drivers. What video card is in the users machine?
>You can probally get a GeForce3, or at least some form of a GeForce2, for
>less then the cost of buying Xi, but I can't say for sure.
>
>Mike D
>
>On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, John Harrold wrote:
>
> > Sometime in January Jennifer Landefeld assaulted the keyboard and
>produced:
> >
> > | Hi All,
> > |
> > | I've got a request to attempt to remedy video issues by installing a
> > | commercial X server from XI Graphics (see quote from requester below).
> > | Anyone familiar with this X server? Any reason I shouldn't switch him
> > | to this that you know of?
> >
> > i've never heard of it, but what's the issue?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > | /"\
> > john harrold | \ / ASCII ribbon
>campaign
> > jmh at member.fsf.org | X against HTML mail
> > the most useful idiot | / \
> >
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the
>homeless,
> > whether the mad destruction is brought under the name of
>totalitarianism or
> > the holy name of liberty and democracy?
> > --Gandhi
> >
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > gpg --keyserver keys.indymedia.org --recv-key F65A739E
> >
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 9
>From: Brian Sammon <brians+ at cs.cmu.edu>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: Re: [wplug] Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi
> Graphics
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:48:06 -0500
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
> > I've got a request to attempt to remedy video issues by installing a
> > commercial X server from XI Graphics (see quote from requester below).
> > Anyone familiar with this X server? Any reason I shouldn't switch him
> > to this that you know of?
>
>If I wasn't too cheap to pay the $100, I'd put it on my laptop.
>The only argument against it that I'm aware of is price, and the fact it's
>not
>open source (for those who care).
>
>They have a history of producing an X Server that supports hardware that
>XFree86 doesn't, and supports other hardware better.
>
>I think the money they charge goes to buying expensive developer info from
>hardware companies who play hard-to-get with the OpenSource community.
>(the
>money also goes to pay their programming staff.) NDAs are probably also
>involved in some cases.
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 10
>From: Brian Sammon <brians+ at cs.cmu.edu>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: Re: [wplug] Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi
> Graphics
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:59:20 -0500
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
> > > I've got a request to attempt to remedy video issues by installing a
> > > commercial X server from XI Graphics (see quote from requester below).
> > > Anyone familiar with this X server? Any reason I shouldn't switch him
> > > to this that you know of?
> >
> > If I wasn't too cheap to pay the $100, I'd put it on my laptop.
> > The only argument against it that I'm aware of is price, and the fact
>it's no
> > open source (for those who care).
>
>Another (possible) point against it is that you probably won't find anyone
>in
>WPLUG who can help you with configuring it...
>
>Another point:
>If this is for a laptop, you may find that their DualView support is more
>mature for your laptop or easier to configure than XFree86's Xinerama
>stuff.
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:24:42 -0500 (EST)
>From: Bryon Gill <bgtrio at yahoo.com>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: Re: [wplug] Anyone familiar with a commercial X server from Xi
> Graphic
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>What kind of graphics chipset does the laptop have?
>
>On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Jennifer Landefeld wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've got a request to attempt to remedy video issues by installing a
> > commercial X server from XI Graphics (see quote from requester below).
> > Anyone familiar with this X server? Any reason I shouldn't switch him
> > to this that you know of?
> >
> > > he switched from the standard X server RedHat provides to a commercial
> > > X server from Xi Graphics, all his display problems went away. He
> > > recommends we give it a try. They offer downloadable 30 day trial
> > > copies for free at their web site, xig.com.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> > jenn
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > wplug mailing list
> > wplug at wplug.org
> > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug
> >
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 12
>From: "Vanco, Don" <don.vanco at agilysys.com>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:55:26 -0500
>Subject: [wplug] Lindows on P2P
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>Lindows has put thier "LiveCD" release up on several P2P networks (formerly
>$30). While I personally don't think it lives up to its Windows
>replacement
>hype, it _is_ my favorite distro to give to Windows users....
>http://info.lindows.com/lindowslive/p2p.html
><http://info.lindows.com/lindowslive/p2p.html>
>
>Don
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 13
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: Re: [wplug] eMachines?
>From: Phil <sublime78ska at comcast.net>
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:49:36 -0500
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:14:55 -0500, Ryan Brown <wplug at tblive.com> wrote:
>
> > Buy a Dell.
> >
> > You can get the Poweredge 400SC tower server for around $250 (I have
> > seen as
> > low as $228) after rebates when they run their specials (almost every
> > week).
> >
> > P4 2.26 ghz, 128 ram, 40 GB hard drive, CDrom. Also has SATA connectors
> > on
> > the board and 1 year warranty.
> >
> > Ryan
>
>Wow - that's the price Goodwill Computers is asking for on their old PII
>3gb hdd 64mb ram "internet" systems. Those things need a downward price
>adjustment, I think!
>
>Phil
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 14
>From: Joe <joe at terrarum.net>
>Subject: Re: [wplug] eMachines?
>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:08:34 -0500
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
> >> Buy a Dell.
> >>
> >> You can get the Poweredge 400SC tower server for around $250 (I have
> >> seen as
> >> low as $228) after rebates when they run their specials (almost every
> >> week).
> >>
> >> P4 2.26 ghz, 128 ram, 40 GB hard drive, CDrom. Also has SATA
> >> connectors on
> >> the board and 1 year warranty.
> >>
> >> Ryan
>
>eugh.. Linux 9 Professional?
>And I wonder what "No OS, Red Hat Configuration" means..
>
>still.. good price for a cheap new box :)
>
>---
>Joe Topjian
>email: joe at terrarum.net
>web: http://zaven.us
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 15
>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:01:45 -0500
>From: "techmike" <mikeslists at access995.com>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: Re: [wplug] Lindows on P2P
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>
>I played with Lindows a bit, not really impressed. Its very like Redhat 9
>on KDE. A little too like it. Looks like the lindows people didn't put
>too much work into refining it with their own flavor. And then selling
>what should be free.
>
>Just my 2 and a half cents. :)
>
>-Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Vanco, Don" <don.vanco at agilysys.com>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:55:26 -0500
>Subject: [wplug] Lindows on P2P
>
> > Lindows has put thier "LiveCD" release up on several P2P networks
> > (formerly
> > $30). While I personally don't think it lives up to its Windows
> > replacement
> > hype, it _is_ my favorite distro to give to Windows users....
> > http://info.lindows.com/lindowslive/p2p.html
> > <http://info.lindows.com/lindowslive/p2p.html>
> >
> > Don
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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>
>Message: 16
>Subject: RE: [wplug] Lindows on P2P
>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:18:33 -0500
>From: "Ghataora, Hardeep" <hghataora at ccac.edu>
>To: <wplug at wplug.org>
>Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org
>
>Blah .... Lindows
>
>I totally agree with Mike I downloaded it and tried and was not
>impressed at all. For some reason (I cant remember why) I thought there
>would be seemless transparent integration for people who wanted to use
>Windows applications, as I've mentioned previously, I downloaded some
>Win32 apps and saved them to the desktop and found it a hassle to get
>them to run in the emulator. There were some vmware issues too (Ran with
>vmware 4.0 on a Windows XP host) that I'd never had with any other LINUX
>I'd run, meaning that when booting I got thrown to the login: prompt. I
>also found Click-N-Run everywhere a bit of a pain too, on the desktop,
>on the panel, in every sub-menu of the 'Lindows' menu button under
>'Program Filse' (and yes, I understand this is a commercial product in
>many ways).
>
>I don't usually whine, and I know there is an incredible amount of work
>to get LINUX/Windows compatibility all in one OS, but, I'm not impressed
>at all. The easiest set up where I've used LINUX to run a Windows
>application is within Knoppix (3.2 and 3.3) where it's pretty much
>worked flawlessly.
>
>Just my rant (haven't *really* had a chance to complain about Lindows).
>
>h
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: techmike [mailto:mikeslists at access995.com]
>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:02 AM
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Subject: Re: [wplug] Lindows on P2P
>
>
>
>I played with Lindows a bit, not really impressed. Its very like Redhat
>9
>on KDE. A little too like it. Looks like the lindows people didn't put
>
>too much work into refining it with their own flavor. And then selling
>what should be free.
>
>Just my 2 and a half cents. :)
>
>-Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Vanco, Don" <don.vanco at agilysys.com>
>To: wplug at wplug.org
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:55:26 -0500
>Subject: [wplug] Lindows on P2P
>
> > Lindows has put thier "LiveCD" release up on several P2P networks
> > (formerly $30). While I personally don't think it lives up to its
> > Windows replacement
> > hype, it _is_ my favorite distro to give to Windows users....
> > http://info.lindows.com/lindowslive/p2p.html
> > <http://info.lindows.com/lindowslive/p2p.html>
> >
> > Don
> > _______________________________________________
> > wplug mailing list
> > wplug at wplug.org
> > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug
>
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