[wplug] RedHat moves - help please

[Wise, Jeremey]

I usually avoid distro comments, as I know so little (each have their good
sides and bad sides).... I will make this observation.

Though RedHat is becoming 'a bit difficult' to work with (specially for the
'free distro' lovers). I actually think it is nice that there is a distro
that has the attitude of 'pay for any help from us'. Very important for
corporate users who need the feeling that they will have someone there to
help them (or are wanting to try Linux for the first time in a production
setting).

Fedora is a great distro and I find I fits most needs. It is also freely
available for full download (unlike SuSE). Most important IMHO is that it
creates that next level of functionality in that you can have a seamless
support / user experience between your big-iron "corporate" RedHat server,
and those small but useful 'utility' servers. Direct support lacks a little
but then again, RedHat will do most anything for money:>)

Debian on the other hand, (correct me if I am wrong) is supported by
contracting help from local or application specific consultant(s). This
distribution would also introduce a system administration learning curve vs.
Fedora / RedHat in that it is structured differently. This is why many still
classify Debian as a home distro.

My $.02

Jeremey Wise (440)-519-6006
Systems Consultant(CNE,MCSE,CSE)
Agilysys, Inc.
Jeremey.Wise at Agilysys.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: wplug-admin at wplug.org [mailto:wplug-admin at wplug.org] On Behalf Of
Alexandros Papadopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 2:34 PM
To: wplug at wplug.org
Subject: Re: [wplug] Redhat moves - help please

On Tuesday 30 December 2003 21:07, Scott Bourns wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I need a little advice, please.
>
> I just inherited responsibility over a remote web server running RH
> 7.3, with Ensim control panel installed. I'm way over my head, but
> used to being here and willing to learn under the gun. I just need
> somebody to give me some quick pointers on these things:
>
> 1. How do I check that 7.3 is as updated and patched as it can be?

Open a terminal as root and type up2date. If you get a registration 
wizard, it has never been used and has about 57 remote root 
vulnerabilities. If it does its checking and exits cleanly, the machine 
is current with all patches.

> 2. Once 7.3 is updated, what should I do about the fact that neither
> it or 8 or 9 are going to be supported anymore? I just don't see the
> smart upgrade move here.

Radical as it may sound, I think that the switch to Debian is currently 
the only viable long-term solution. Unless your organization is willing 
to pay for licenses, support fees, etc to Red Hat.

Cheers

-A

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