[wplug] WINE & MAYA PLE

Matthew J. Hughes mhues at verizon.net
Fri Jan 27 20:00:56 EST 2006


I think Patrick mentions that there is a free vmware player out now. I 
heard vmware rocks but alas, I have not been able to use it until now. 
There is a comparison of the various emulators over at 
http://wikipedia.org/. Bochs is rated as very slow, others are faster. I 
was wondering if anyone has used bochs?
-matt


Robert Blackwell wrote:

>VMare is really nice.
>The VMware Technology Network (VMTN) Subscription,
>http://www.vmware.com/products/vmtn/, is $299.00.
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>On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Patrick Wagstrom wrote:
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>>On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 15:34 -0500, Eric Cooper wrote:
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>>>On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 12:29:12PM -0500, Matthew T. Engel wrote:
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>>>>I thought I might be able to help them out and set up MAYA PLE
>>>>through wine...
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>>>If you can't get the wine approach to work, you might have better luck
>>>running it in a Windows virtual machine with vmware, qemu, or xen.
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>>The only real solution out of those is VMWare.  Thanks to the VMWare
>>player, it might be easier than you think to get it going, especially if
>>you're in possession of a site license for windows.  Use a single
>>instance of VMWare Workstation to create a virtual machine, then copy it
>>to each machine and run it using the free VMWare Player.
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>>QEmu may be appropriate, but I've not had good luck getting the
>>accelerator to work and everything to run nicely.  Not to say it can't
>>be done, but it's a lot of work.
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>>Xen is not an option for this purpose for two major reasons:
>>1. Until Intel and AMD ship chips with chip level virtualization
>>technologies (Vanderpool and Pacifica respectively), stock windows will
>>not work.  The Xen folks have booted Windows in Xen, but that's because
>>they licensed the source code to Windows and did the work to
>>paravirtualize it - without those modifications Windows in Xen is a no
>>go.  The chip level virtualization is supposed to fix some of those
>>issues, we'll see.
>>2. Xen still needs to be installed at the core of the system for dom0.
>>This means that all the host linux machines would need to be
>>reconfigured and repartitioned to take advantage of Xen features.
>>Doesn't sound the most practical.
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>>We're hoping to have someone from VMWare come in to talk about their
>>product (which is just cool on all levels, player, workstation, esx/gsx,
>>and DataCenter) sometime in the coming months.  I *highly* recommend
>>everyone show up and invite their friends when this happens[1].
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>>--Patrick
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>>[1] I've been to two previous VMWare talks and both times I was very
>>impressed by their quality and informative presentations.  They don't
>>just send out sales-droids to do the presentations, usually it's an
>>engineer too.  Plus, in the past they've been known to give out free
>>licenses to VMWare workstation to those in attendance.  Which is a
>>pretty sweet freebie.  No guarantees for us though.
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