[wplug] Registering nameservers

Poyner, Brandon bpoyner at ccac.edu
Wed Mar 16 08:42:41 EST 2005


A lame delegation is listing a name server that does not have an
authoritative response for that zone.  An example would be listing
ns1.yahoo.com as a name server for terrarum.net.

The way you describe is the better scenario, although as you point out
you shouldn't really create two NS records at the same IP address for
the same zone.  There are services that will do free secondary DNS for
you, such as xname.org.

Back in the day when Network Solutions was the only choice you had to go
through another hoop.  You had to register each name server before you
could register a domain to the name server, and you needed at least two
name servers per domain.  Now you can get away with one name server and
it does not need to be explicitly registered before you use it.  

Brandon Poyner
Network Engineer III
CCAC - College Office
412-237-3086
 
-----Original Message-----
From: wplug-bounces+bpoyner=ccac.edu at wplug.org
[mailto:wplug-bounces+bpoyner=ccac.edu at wplug.org] On Behalf Of Joe
Topjian
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:12 PM
To: wplug at wplug.org
Subject: [wplug] Registering nameservers

Hello,

I read a post on a forum about a week ago where someone recommended
using godaddys DNS control panel to set up all their A, MX, etc
records for their primary domain.  Then on the actual server that that
IP points to, they set up BIND and then host all their secondary and
other domains they own.

Now this didn't sit right with me for a week for two reasons:
1) Having Godaddy host the records for one domain you own while you
host the others on another server doesn't seem right
2) Having Godaddy host ANY records at all when you plan on running a
nameserver regardless on if you have other domains doesn't seem right
either

The problem is, I can't find any text to support this.

I was always taught to register your "main" or "workhorse" domain at
any registrar. They will always have an option to register a new
nameserver and to use that. For example, my main domain is
terrarum.net. When I registered it, I also registered two new
nameservers, ns1.terrarum.net and ns2.terrarum.net with the IP address
of my server (yes, thats a single address and I know it should be two
but I only have one IP). Note that this is an actual option to
"register new nameserver" not just toss an A record on their site.
Once that was done, I went back to the main details of my terrarum.net
account and told it about my two new nameservers.  Now on
ns1/2.terrarum.net I can host all the A, MX, CNAME records I want and
everything works fine. And any other domain I register, I just tell it
to use ns1.terrarum.net and ns2.terrarum.net as the DNS servers (thats
why I think of the main one as the workhorse).

Like I said, thats how I was taught. This also makes sense to me
because doing it the way the forum poster said, it seems like thats an
example of lame delegation.  I'm not sure if that's the correct term
or if it's out of context and that's what I'm trying to prove here.

Does anyone know what in the world I'm talking about or am I losing it?
:)

-Joe
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