[wplug] Wi-Fi Mapping in the Press

[Darius Cardren]

Put the accesspoint through a proxy or firewall finr the rest of the
network of vise virsa
like put a cheap non wifi router behinde the main one to subnet off
the busness pc fomr the rest of the network


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:28:00 -0500 (EST), gregsim at telerama.com
<gregsim at telerama.com> wrote:
> I agree with Doug.  Successful businesses usually have a "loss leader" -
> something they can give away free to draw in business.  Actually, extra
> bandwidth is pretty cheap.
> 
> My concern is security.  I helped a lady set up a wireless access point in her
> new, small book store in Lebanon, PA.  Her regular IT guy was freaking out about
> whether there should be encryption since people could sit in her parking lot and
> steal bandwidth - the typing in a 128 bit key is a big hassle for a casual
> customer.  I figure pirated connections would only be a problem if they stole so
> much bandwidth, it denied the customers service.  Not likely.  But, it does
> allow people into her network.  How much of a firewall should be build around
> her business computer?  Is Microsoft's personal firewall enough?
> 
> Greg
> 
> Quoting Doug Green <diego96 at mac.com>:
> 
> > This is not a good venue to discuss business principles or anything,
> > but I totally disagree. Many businesses actually encourage the "home
> > away from home" concept, trying to lure consumers to spend more time at
> >
> > their establishments. One successful example is Panera Bread. They have
> >
> > been expanding their franchise rapidly, and avidly promote the "sit and
> >
> > stay" mentality by offering cozy fireplaces, reading lamps, comfortable
> >
> > couches and free Wi-Fi. The idea is that if you spend more time, you'll
> >
> > buy more and develop patterned consumer behavior at that business.
> > Eventually, you'll buy something... and as long as this is true, the
> > free Wi-Fi map will continue to grow.
> >
> > In a competitive business environment, free net access is a value added
> >
> > bonus to the consumer. While I'm not an expert on the costs of
> > bandwidth, I'd bet that the gain in business far outweighs the cost of
> >
> > operation. Either way, free wi-fi is a good thing and we all benefit!
> > :) Even established businesses that don't offer wi-fi for free will
> > begin to feel the competition heating up (ex: Starbucks vs. Panera at
> > locations on McKnight Road and in Oakland). In the meantime, I'm
> > keeping my eyes on the ever-expanding free wi-fi map!
> >
> > -Doug
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 18, 2005, at 1:56 PM, Michael P. O Connor wrote:
> >
> > > I know why more places don't have free Wi-Fi, because it causes
> > money,
> > > and there are also probles with providing it.  If I owned a bussness
> > I
> > > would not have free Wi-Fi, ya it sounds great but what about the over
> > > head cost, and how many people would come and not buy anything and
> > just
> > > leach off the free internet, removing the tables for paying
> > costomers,
> > > or lets say you have a coffee house, they come buy a coffee and sit
> > > there for hours just surfing the web, bandwidth is not free, untill
> > > that
> > > day Wi-Fi will not be free everywhere.
> > >
> > >>     Hi, all, wanted to mention that Pittsburgh's own WiFiMaps.com has
> >
> > >> been
> > >> in the press recently, creating maps for a couple of  newpapers.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Why pay for Wi-Fi?
> > >> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05038/453206.stm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Seattle's packed with Wi-Fi spots
> > >>
> > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/
> > > 2002183464_wifimap18.html
> > >>
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> > > --
> > > Michael P. O'Connor
> > > mpop at mikeoconnor.net
> > > http://www.mikeoconnor.net
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