[wplug] The Minimum Wage and Musix (unrelated topics)
beer
beer at cmu.edu
Wed Dec 14 10:23:50 EST 2005
Thats nice, lay down flame bait and then conveniently point out that the topic is not germane to the list....
On Wed, December 14, 2005 10:02 am, Bryon Gill said:
> A minimum wage increase could inflate prices, but the gain in wages would
> be larger than the rise in prices unless everyone was making the minimum
> wage.
>
> Your argument that people should be allowed to enter into contracts for
> $50/hr jobs ($50/hr? Sign me up!) hides the fact that there's no bottom
> end to your libertarian ideal - why not allow people to sign over their
> entire lives and enter into slavery? If you don't think that's ok, where
> and how do you draw the line? I submit to you that the argument you're
> making doesn't allow for one, because it would constitute a "minimum"
> wage.
>
> Minimum wages exist to protect the powerless, those who would otherwise
> be cheated or bullied into working for far less, or those who simply can't
> find any other work. I'm sure if you're being offered $50/hr contract
> jobs you're not the sort of person minimum wage laws were designed to
> protect.
>
> Can we please hop back on topic now? I have been playing with a
> music-production distribution called Musix
> (https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Documentation), and it's the
> best one I've tried yet. I've tried PlanetCCRMA, which worked pretty well
> but I found the install procedure tedious and I could never get the
> kernels to play nice with all my hardware. I've also tried AGNULA, but
> I've never been able to get it to work properly. It's got a ton of useful
> software installed, most notably Hydrogen (a drum machine which has come a
> *long* way since I first tried it), Ardour (multitrack recording program)
> and Time Machine (a big "record everything" button meant to catch
> inspiration as it happens). On the downside, it didn't recognize my USB
> Mouse, and also didn't recognize my wireless PCI card (no big surprize
> there), but it did bring me to a dialog at startup that correctly
> identified and configured my M-Audio Delta soundcard.
>
> If you are interested in this sort of thing I strongly recommend booting
> it up (no install required) and giving it a spin.
>
> Bryon
>
>
>
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, web at 3dresearch.com wrote:
>
>> At 05:12 PM 12/13/2005, you wrote:
>>> <RANT> It's a shame one can make more in a day of panhandling than
>>> working a job. Every time there is an effort to raise the minimum wage
>>> at state or federal level there is suddenly unity among the parties to
>>> soundly defeat it, yet these politicians have no problem with voting
>>> themselves hefty pay raises to supplement their already hefty
>>> salaries year after year! It's really disgusting. Wages have been very
>>> stagnant in Pittsburgh the past decade. And we have no national plan
>>> to provide health insurance of the 40+ million who cannot afford it. I
>>> wish people would wake up and stop being so apathetic and selfish.
>>> It's a disgrace that we live in such a rich country yet so few people
>>> see any of that wealth, and other countries with even a larger
>>> population can provide superior social benefits, especially in terms
>>> of the affordability and access to health care and university
>>> education. </RANT> Zach [...]
>>
>> Well, increasing the minimum wage will only increase the price of
>> everything else and won't make minimum wage earners better off.
>>
>> There is another argument against the minimum wage though. Say, the
>> minimum wage will be increased to $100/hour. Sounds good - but what if
>> an employer offered me a job at $50/hour which I find still attractive?
>>
>> Minimum wage laws only outlaw agreements which people are willingly
>> enter into otherwise.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>>
>> Janos Dohanics web at 3dresearch.com http://www.3dresearch.com/
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