[wplug] SOLUTION - Email disappearing/not accessible via KMail under SuSE 8.2

[Edward Bosco]

All -

Kmail has an independent, standalone capability to download email messages 
from an ISP. 

SuSE, if configured a certain way, will download those messages _prior_ and 
erractically to Kmail.

It doesn't get them all, all the time. No error messages are returned to 
sender, as the email was received. Those emails are in a different mailbox 
queue than what Kmail looks at. Hence you've "missing" emails, ones that 
you've downloaded, but can't see via KMail. They are visible under command 
line 'mail'.

It turns out that under SuSE, if you use Yast2 to configure Network Services, 
Mail Transfer Agent, and input your ISP's server, your email and such - the 
mail program will get your POP3 messages.

One approach is to not input the ISP's data to Yast2; for time's sake that's 
what I did. You can tailor the system to send system status messages, 
normally to root, to your main mailbox. It's a pretty flexible system, I'll 
look at it more in detail later.

Ed.



On Wednesday 03 March 2004 09:51, Bill Moran wrote:
> Edward Bosco wrote:
> > Bill -
> >
> > KMail on the receive side is using POP. Xmit is smtp. The messages within
> > mail are emails from Earthlink. Your scenario sound very likely.
>
>  From what you say, that's almost definatly the problem.
>
> > Mail might pickup emails from Earthlink after modem connect and prior to
> > invoking KMail.
>
> Probably.
>
> > How might I suppress mail accessing the Internet/modem, and only
> > funneling that traffic through KMail?
>
> Is there a specific reason you're using both?  The easiest solution I can
> think of is to stop using mail and only use KMail.
>
> Another option might be to replace POP with IMAP, which is designed to let
> multiple programs access the mail without this problem.  Earthlink may or
> may not offer IMAP accounts, I don't know.
>
> If you can't use IMAP, and you must use both KMail and mail for some
> reason, I'm sure there's a way to teach mail not to step on KMail's toes. 
> I'm not familiar enough with mail to tell you what that way is, but you
> might consider looking through the config for a way to turn off downloading
> of messages altogether.  Or possibly a way to tell it only to download
> messages when you specifically tell it to?  Many mail programs will have an
> option to "leave downloaded mail on the server" which causes duplicate
> messages, but may be what you're looking for.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> <snip>
>
> > On Wednesday 03 March 2004 09:07, Bill Moran wrote:
> >
> >  Edward Bosco wrote:
> >>>All -
> >>>
> >>>I've an odd problem with emails coming off the Earthlink.net account not
> >>>showing up in KMail.
> >>>
> >>>I'm running SuSE 8.2, with Konqueror as browser and KMail as email
> >>>client.
> >>>
> >>>I got some messages from people, that sent me email that I'd never saw
> >>> in the KMail inbox. When I open a console window and invoke the unix
> >>> program 'mail', I see some messages in that inbox that I hadn't seen in
> >>> KMail.
> >>>
> >>>I haven't seen anything via a google search that sheds light on this.
> >>> I'm not seeing a clear path to get those emails requeued toso I can
> >>> access them via KMail.
> >>
> >>Are you using POP3 with both of those clients?  If so, the UNIX mail is
> >>downloading the emails from the server and they no longer exist when
> >> Kmail checks for new mail.
> >>
> >>Otherwise, are these emails that are being sent to the local UNIX user
> >>account? Check the headers, these messages may never have gotten out onto
> >>the Internet at all.  Are they system status emails?  If so, most Posix
> >>systems email system status messages to the local root account by
> >> default. You'll have to reconfigure your maintenance routines to email
> >> to your Internet account.
> >>
> >>Those are the two most likely causes of the problem.  If you want more
> >>detailed answers, you'll have to provide more details of your setup (i.e.
> >>POP3 vs. IMAP, example headers from problem emails, etc)
> >
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