[wplug] Preparing for distro Upgrade

[Embery, Nathan]

I'll through in a me too on freebsd being stable. Check this out:

bash$ uname -v
FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 27 16:02:18 EDT 2002
nate at ccicusbsd1.crowncastle.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/SMP2
bash$ uptime
 2:04PM  up 732 days, 21:22, 1 user, load averages: 0.28, 0.12, 0.12
bash$

[nate at uslinuxweb1 nate]$ uname -v
#1 SMP Wed Feb 4 20:36:46 EST 2004
[nate at uslinuxweb1 nate]$ uptime
 14:40:14  up 59 days, 23:41,  1 user,  load average: 0.03, 0.46, 0.32
[nate at uslinuxweb1 nate]$

The linux box is actually supposed to replace the BSD box, but I just
can't bring myself to do the final cutover. I built this box nearly 4
years ago, and it's only been rebooted 4 times since then. The last time
was to upgrade the OS to 4.5. It's actually probably due for another
upgrade one of these days... Is anyone tracking the 5.x series?

Nate


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poyner, Brandon [mailto:bpoyner at ccac.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:30 PM
> To: General user list
> Subject: RE: [wplug] Preparing for distro Upgrade
> 
> I'll back up the statement that FreeBSD is stable, as long as you're
> running a release and not tracking 'stable'.  In my experience it's
been
> more stable and reliable than Linux, not that Linux is unstable but it
> does hiccup here and there and I've seen file systems get inexplicably
> corrupted both in unclean and clean shutdowns (fully patched SuSE 9.0
> Pro & RedHat 8).
> 
> Both Debian and FreeBSD tend to stay away from cutting edge
> applications, Debian more so.
> 
> Personally the thing I didn't like about Debian the most is the
> installer, too many questions and not enough root prompt.  I'd rather
it
> took more defaults and err on the side of caution.  I hope that's
fixed
> now.
> 
> Brandon Poyner
> Network Engineer II
> CCAC - College Office
> 412-237-3086
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ARiley at edgarsnyder.com [mailto:ARiley at edgarsnyder.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:23 AM
> To: General user list
> Subject: Re: [wplug] Preparing for distro Upgrade
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> FreeBSD and Debian have very cool package management, pkg_add and
> apt-get
> respectively.  The install of Debian used to be more demanding than
> FreeBSD
> until a better installer was incorporated into Sarge (Woody may have
> that
> same installer this week).  One thing I do like about Debian is the
> configure-as-you-install approach, which won my affection when
> installing
> Openssh and the installer prompted me for disabling the weak SSH1
> protocol.
> It will take you longer to get up but you will _know_ your system.
> Also,
> since apt-get resolves dependencies you really can start with a base
> system
> and add as necessary.
> 
> FreBSD has a much better mascot and isn't nearly as political.  Why is
> this
> important?  Stallman and co. with an increasingly annoying eye towards
> 'free' or 'non-free' software licenses kick really great programs out
of
> their branch (mozilla, qmail to name a few).  FreeBSD gives you linux
> compatability so this is really a non-issue.  It's also extremely
stable
> and secure.  Trusted BSD anyone?
> 
> Why choose?  I run both.
> 
> Aaron Riley
> 
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