[wplug] Since we're off topic
Drew from Zhrodague
drew at zhrodague.net
Tue Feb 3 23:31:39 EST 2004
> The problem with this problem is that it's so intermittent. For example,
> my regression testing this evening went like this:
>
> 1) unplug CD-ROM IDE cable - try to boot. Blank screen, no POST.
> 2) unplug HDD IDE cable - try to boot. BIOS POST, no IDE devices, "Insert
> system disk and press enter"
> 3) reattach HDD IDE calbe - try to boot. Successful.
>
> I then began composing this message and the computer utterly froze. No
> warnings or anything, no bluescreening (this is a Windows box) - just a
> halt.
>
> So I powered down, re-unplugged the HDDs and tried again. I repeated
> maybe half-a-dozen times. To date (since this evening, when I started) I
> have not seen the computer fail to POST when the hard drives are
> unplugged. But holy mother of crap is it bad news if my HDDs are failing.
> First of all, I am paralyzed at work and school without software I have
> installed on this machine, and second of all, etc., etc. You know, data
> loss and stuff.
>
> Since the problem seems to be correlated to the *first time* I try to
> power up the machine after n hours, I will wait for awhile and try again
> with the HDDs not plugged in. If I see it fail even once without the
> HDDs, then it's probably the motherboard (there isn't anything else here
> except for a wireless NIC). If not, then I'm in data recovery hell and
> will probably prevail upon the list again soon.
>
> Hell, why wait? Is there anyone who would be able to provide a host
> machine that I could use to ghost my old drive? (assuming I can get it to
> power up for awhile).
Sounds like a power-supply, dewd. Don't skimp on those. Bad power
supplies are the leading cause of machine failure (minus user-error). What
kid of power supply do you have in that thing? Bad RAM may also be the
cause, but I've seen few cases of that. Of course, I only get monster
power-supplies anymore, so...
This is prolly a great time to point out the virtues of redundant
disk space. For those of you who setup Linux boxes, would it really kill
you to buy an extra identical disk, and setup a raid-1? Linux has this
kernel-raid feature, where you can effectively do whatever kind of RAID
you'd like (mirroring, speed/space, parity, concatination). Linux Kernel
RAID is the only way to go, if you absolutely hate losing data.
I usually my partitions like this. If I have only two disks, I do
a RAID-1 (mirroring). With more than two, it becomes more fun:
/boot raid-1 250-500m
swap raid-1/5 1-4g
/ raid-1/5 rest
My GIS host at home has 4 of those WD 120g disks, with 8m of cache
each. I use the two onboard IDEs, plus a PCI ATA100 card. Seems to work
okay, but I'd rather have two of the ATA100 cards, and not use the
onboards. The arm-swing is still the slowest part, so it's useful to save
an interrupt. Might not be the fastest thing in the world, but disks DO
DIE, and I've lost enough data to never want to lose a single bit ever
again.
Redhat's install package lets you set your partitions this way. It
used to be that you would mount the space of another disk somewhere else,
but disks are HUGE these days. Buy two, and set it up right. You'll never
worry about data loss again.
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Drew from Zhrodague http://www.WiFiMaps.com
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