[wplug] Firebird and Java

Fri Apr 2 16:40:21 EST 2004

> When you're asked which profile to use, it means Firebird is already running.  End  it and then restart.
> 
> To get the java plugin, you need to install the jre.  There is a good site, I believe it's www.jpackage.org, that has a lot of java stuff already packaged up for many distros.  To check the plugins that Firebird knows about, type 'about:plugins' in the location.  
> 
> good luck!
> 
> Phil
> 

Okay.  I remember some nuance about configuring Mozilla to not prompt me 
for a profile, very long ago. 

So I closed all my Mozilla browsers, 'su - 'ed, and ran 'mozstart' as
root.  As root, I have no plugins installed (as myself, I had shockwave
flash and something called 'futuresplash').  Now, I am concerned that
installing a plugin as root will not confer that pluginality to my regular
user account.  Is this the case?  How do plugins work, anyway?

Second, about this JRE that I need -- isn't the point of a plugin that it
is a self-contained unit that 'plugs in' to the browser, not requiring
external support?  And if not, why would it attempt installation when a
critical component was missing?  If it's going to try to do everything for
me, without telling me anything about what it's doing (or even creating a
failure log, AFAIK), it had better darn well work! </rant>

Third, here at jpackage.org there are a hojillion different packages.  
There are no packages listed under "Internet/WWW/Browsers".  I'm not sure 
what I'm looking for here.

It seems like there's a disconnect here between the user and the 
programmer.  In windows, the operating system moves the 'programmer/user 
interface' very very close to the user.  I moved to Linux because I didn't 
like having so little flexibility.  But the problem comes where people try 
to make the interface just as 'user friendly' when that level of user 
friendliness is not supported.  It tries to 'solve my problems for me,' 
but it fails, so i'm just SOL.  Whereas, if it had simply pointed me to 
some source code in the first place, I could have compiled and installed 
it already, no problem.

Obviously, this isn't your fault or anything.  But as a relative newcomer 
to Linux, I am thinking (however narcissistically) that my perspective may 
be valuable.

And I would still like to play this stupid Yahoo game.

-Brandon

> ps - sorry for top posting.  Comcast's web mail client makes me do it ;)  They had a new and improved version that was online for like one day - guess it was buggy!
> > On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, deep wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think you have to be root to install that.  Open a shell prompt and
> > > start Firebird after su'ing as root.  Then follow the same process you
> > > have been doing.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > It doesn't seem to make a difference.  Plus, it keeps asking me what 
> > profile to use, and when I say 'default', it says it can't use that one 
> > because it's already in use.
> > 
> > WTF?  I switched to Linux to get away from this crap.
> > 
> > So i made a new profile, and it still does the same thing.  I go to the 
> > website, it says I need a plugin, I [say okay | install the plugin that I 
> > downloaded earlier] and this time it fails silently, reporting only "read 
> > only" in the installation popup window.
> > 
> > -brandon
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > >  --- On Fri 04/02, Brandon Kuczenski < brandon at 301south.net > wrote:
> > > From: Brandon Kuczenski [mailto: brandon at 301south.net]
> > > To: wplug at wplug.org
> > > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:59:22 -0500 (EST)
> > > Subject: [wplug] Firebird and Java
> > > 
> 
> > > I'm running Mozilla Firebird (0.7) on Redhat 9.  I can't get the 
> > Java<br>plugin to install.  The behavior is startlingly windows-like, in that 
> > it<br>gives a nonsensical error message (in this case, the words "read 
> > only")<br>and fails otherwise terminally.  Thoroughly frustrating.  I don't 
> > even<br>understand enough about plugins to know what question to ask except -- 
> > how<br>to make this work?<br><br>Here's what I do.  I go 
> > to:<br>http://games.yahoo.com/games/downloads/cb.html<br><br>It says, in a popup 
> > window, "This page contains information of a type <br>(application/x-java-vm) 
> > that can only be viewed with the appropriate <br>Plug-in.  Click OK to download 
> > the Plugin."<br><br>So I click OK and a new browser window opens up to download 
> > the plugin.  I <br>tried once downloading it, and again saving it to my system 
> > and running it <br>locally.  When I try to do the 'automatic' installation, I 
> > wait for it to <br>download and after it completes, it reports "read only" in 
> > the pop!
> >  up!
> > >   <br>window, and "Error encountered --- 215" on the webpage, where it warns 
> > me <br>that the file may take a very long time to download over a 
> > modem.<br><br>It gives me an ftp address, and if I go there to save the file 
> > locally, <br>and then open it from within the web browser, I get the same 
> > error.<br><br>Any 
> > idea?<br><br>TIA,<br>-Brandon<br><br><br>_______________________________________
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