[wplug] RE: The death of RHL (was: Linux Certification Interest)

Vanco, Don don.vanco at agilysys.com
Tue Nov 25 12:54:59 EST 2003


Here's a crazy idea - take a look at http://www.redhat.com
<http://www.redhat.com> .  I'll bet they've got a thing or two to say about
this......
 
Don

-----Original Message----- 
From: wplug-admin at wplug.org on behalf of Clark Slater 
Sent: Tue 11/25/2003 12:28 PM 
To: wplug at wplug.org 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: [wplug] Linux Certification Interest



I having been using RH and Java on my co-located
internet servers for a few years now.

Can someone point me to some information about the
changes that Red Hat is making so that I can start
to get an understanding of how it will affect me?

I haven't yet heard about any of this...

Thanks,
Clark 

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003,
Vanco, Don wrote:

> If it matters to anyone, (per RH) as of 12-1 all courses given by RH will
be
> based on, and reflect certification against, RHEL 3.  No word on the
> expiration, so one would tend to believe that it remains for 2 releases
> (there is no longer any concept of major/minor releases).
>
> Several folks (myself included) have argued vehemently with RH on the pure
> marketing BS that is the current naming convention... to no avail.  There
> were, in fact, TWO entirely different releases of RHEL 2.1 and this has
> caused ongoing nightmares for business partners of HP and IBM (like us)
who
> scripted against one installer or the other.  But RH is now a marketing
> company, and cares more that a PDF or magazine ad can be made to last for
> years as opposed to alert users to a change in the current shipping
> installation media by calling it 3.1.....
>
> I am working hard to learn to love SuSE... but it's an ugly baby to
> love.......  I am so tired of RH.... and others are as well based on the
> lukewarm launch of RHEL 3.
>
> Don
>
>
> wplug-admin at wplug.org wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Vanco, Don wrote:
> >
> >> Not to rain on your parade, but a couple points:
> >> 1) Current Red Hat curriculum and certification is based on / aimed
> >> at Red Hat 9 - as far as I know there's no immediate plans to alter
> >> the course content to reflect the Enterprise product line even
> >> though it makes a great deal of sense given that there is no longer
> >> a Red Hat Linux.  That being said - the differences between RHEL 3
> >> (which one would hope is what you're teaching as 2.1 is now somewhat
> >> deprecated) and RH9 are minimal.
> >
> > When they changed the numbering scheme, I emailed them asking when my
> > certificate would expire because they claimed it would be
> > good for 2 major
> > number changes. I can't find the exact quote from them I'm
> > looking for,
> > but what I got out of it is, RHL and RHEL are basically the
> > same thing,
> > with RHEL having a slower release cycle. Certificate
> > expriation dates were
> > then changed to be based on the version of RHEL in existance
> > at the time
> > of the exam. Ie. I took what was the RH 7.3 exam, but RHEL
> > 2.1 was out, so
> > my certificate expires when RHEL 4.0 is released.
> >
> https://www.redhat.com/training/rhce/rhce_faq.html#current
<https://www.redhat.com/training/rhce/rhce_faq.html#current> 
> I'm not disagreeing with you, Don, I'm just hopefully clarifying things?
>
> > 3) HTML email sucks
> I concur.




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