[wplug] hello & firewire camcorder issue
Wise, Jeremey
WISEJ at PIOS.com
Fri Mar 28 10:15:50 EST 2003
Not that many care but wanted to update list on my experience and wows in my
pursuit of video editing with Linux project.
Now that I have firewire pulling data off via dvgrab I am trying to get USB
interface to due the same. (PS-> dvgrab in firewire only) I did some
research but hit nothing but brick walls. "usbvideo" module does not due
what I want. Still investigating. For the sake of $50 the ROI on USB vs.
firewire may not be worth it -> though it would be nice as most everyone has
USB and would be nice to prove functionality.
The second issue was installing the utils to edit the video. I tried
multiple avenues to install kino (which seems to be the most highly
referenced video editor for Linux) but gave up after multiple layers of
errors. The more powerful (but listed as much less user friendly) cinelerra
installed very well on RH 8.0 except having to shoe horn in "ln -s
libstdc++.so.5 libstdc++.so.3" to fix a missing file error. The apps load
fine but as I have no way to pull the files from my camcorder I can not test
functionality. (PS: if someone could post a small *.avi file of good taste I
could pull and play with I could test this out and let you know my thoughts
on cinelerra).
The third issue is sound on a 810e chipset sound card. Downloaded alsa from
freshrpms.org and had a few difficulties but in speaking with Mr. Vanco it
is likely user error from following docs on alsa.org and not those provide
by the freshrpm people. PS: don't ever bother downloading cvs -> must stand
for (Crappy Version Software) as it vomited all over the place.
Let me know if you have any input / experience on editing.
Jeremey Wise (440)-519-6006
(CNE,MCSE,CSE)
Pioneer-Standard Electronics, Inc
wisej at pios.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Wise, Jeremey [mailto:WISEJ at pios.com]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:34 AM
To: 'wplug at wplug.org'
Subject: RE: [wplug] hello & firewire camcorder issue
This issue was related to a few things. The Firewire adapter was working,
the Camcorder was being detected but their were a few misconceptions. DVGRAB
is a utility that does not control the camcorder devices but only takes in
raw data stream and pumps it into a file. The first error
"[root at localhost root]# dvgrab test.file raw1394 - couldn't get handle: No
such device" was related to the fact that raw1394 was not inserted. "sudo
insmod raw1394" fixed that. This module allows streaming data to be ported
to a 'listening' application. Now the command "dvgrab filename" would just
sit their waiting (i.e. no errors). The next issue was that the camcorder
had to be playing the data for it to be read via into the file. It took
longer then I expected to stream the data but maybe this is just a lack of
reference / expectations too high. There is now a "filename.avi" file on the
system and trying to get Kino installed to read it. Note: Make sure to
install dev tools as you will have to compile portions of the Kino support
software. (Downloading Kernel-headers from dialup is not one of my favorite
past-times).
Will keep you posted as I know many would love to work camcorders on Linux.
Jeremey Wise (440)-519-6006
(CNE,MCSE,CSE)
Pioneer-Standard Electronics, Inc
wisej at pios.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Goeder [mailto:dangoeder at hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 1:12 PM
To: wplug at wplug.org
Subject: [wplug] hello & firewire camcorder issue
Hello. I'm Dan. My brother-in-law just introduced me to Linux and told me to
sign up here for help with my learning.
I have been trying to get my Canon ZR40 camcorder to work with my system.
Here are the problems that I am having:
Here is the issue. We think the driver is loaded and workding as seen in the
output of 'lsmod'
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[root at localhost root]# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
tulip 43552 0
ppp_deflate 4536 0 (autoclean)
zlib_deflate 21464 0 (autoclean) [ppp_deflate]
ppp_async 9440 1 (autoclean)
ppp_generic 24380 3 (autoclean) [ppp_deflate ppp_async]
slhc 6756 0 (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
nls_iso8859-1 3516 1 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 5148 1 (autoclean)
vfat 13084 1 (autoclean)
fat 38712 0 (autoclean) [vfat]
sr_mod 18168 0 (autoclean)
soundcore 6532 0 (autoclean)
binfmt_misc 7528 1
autofs 13348 0 (autoclean) (unused)
ipt_REJECT 3736 6 (autoclean)
iptable_filter 2412 1 (autoclean)
ip_tables 15224 2 [ipt_REJECT iptable_filter]
ide-scsi 10512 0
scsi_mod 107240 2 [sr_mod ide-scsi]
ide-cd 33608 0
cdrom 33696 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
ohci1394 20108 0 (unused)
ieee1394 46892 0 [ohci1394]
mousedev 5524 2
keybdev 2976 0 (unused)
hid 22244 0 (unused)
input 5920 0 [mousedev keybdev hid]
usb-uhci 26188 0 (unused)
ehci-hcd 17480 0 (unused)
usbcore 77024 1 [hid usb-uhci ehci-hcd]
ext3 70336 2
jbd 52212 2 [ext3]
**************************************************
here is what proc is seeing.
*************************************************
[root at localhost root]# cat /proc/bus/ieee1394/devices
Node[00:1023] GUID[230050c5000107b8]:
Vendor ID: `Linux OHCI-1394' [0x000000]
Capabilities: 0x0083c0
Bus Options:
IRMC(0) CMC(1) ISC(1) BMC(0) PMC(0) GEN(0)
LSPD(2) MAX_REC(2048) CYC_CLK_ACC(0)
Host Node Status:
Host Driver : ohci1394
Nodes connected : 2
Nodes active : 2
SelfIDs received: 2
Irm ID : [01:1023]
BusMgr ID : [63:1023]
In Bus Reset : no
Root : no
Cycle Master : no
IRM : no
Bus Manager : no
Node[01:1023] GUID[00008500005033df]:
Vendor ID: `Canon' [0x000085]
Capabilities: 0x0083c0
Bus Options:
IRMC(1) CMC(1) ISC(1) BMC(0) PMC(0) GEN(0)
LSPD(0) MAX_REC(512) CYC_CLK_ACC(100)
Unit Directory 0:
Vendor/Model ID: Canon [000085] / ZR40 [000000]
Software Specifier ID: 00a02d
Software Version: 010001
Length (in quads): 0
[root at localhost root]#
****************************************
When we unplug the device and move the port it is using on the firewire card
we get a mesage back... (more confermation that the camera is live and
accessable)
******************************
Mar 22 13:07:09 localhost su(pam_unix)[5958]: session opened for user root
by dan(uid=500)
Mar 22 13:10:37 localhost kernel: ohci1394_0: SelfID received outside of bus
reset sequence
Mar 22 13:10:38 localhost /etc/hotplug/ieee1394.agent: ... no drivers for
IEEE1394 product 0x000085/0x00a02d/0x010001
[root at localhost root]#
*********************************
according to the man pages on dvgrab (dvgrab-1.01-5) this should pull the
files off the camcorder and place them into the specified file, but instead,
I get this.
*********************************
[root at localhost root]# dvgrab test.file
raw1394 - couldn't get handle: No such device
This error usually means that the ieee1394 driver is not loaded or that
/dev/raw1394 does not exist.
[root at localhost root]#
*********************************
Any help? Hoping to us Linux for video editing to avoid buying Microsoft but
need to get this up and working.
Thanks in advance.
Dan
PS: Sorry if this is sent as HTML email. Free internet mail was a good price
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