[wplug] Libranet 2.8

Jonathan Billings jsbillings at mac.com
Thu Feb 6 20:29:34 EST 2003


You can use up2date for free for just one machine (per account/email 
address).

Other than that, I really don't like it.

Jonathan Billings

On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 08:07  PM, Ivan Jager wrote:

> Can you use up2date without paying anything? Did they make the tools 
> available so that you can set up your own pup2date repostory with your 
> own packages? Can you set up your own mirror of their packages? Last I 
> knew the answer was no to all of these questions. Supposing the 
> answers are yes now, is there any reason I would want to switch back?
>
>
> On 2003.02.06 12:58 "Vanco, Donald" wrote:
>> Mr. David Bersson wrote:
>> <snip>
>> > Storm-Linux 2000 takes hours of upgrading (with a 56) but runs
>> nicely,
>> > and is easy to manage. I've completely upgraded it, right
>> > from x-windows to the latest icewm. Being Debain based, its
>> > easily upgraded. I also deleted the old lilo and put in Grub for my
>> > bootloader.
>> <snip>
>> > I'm going to burn some copies of my Storm-Linux cd's and
>> > attempt to trade anyone on this e-group who likes Debian
>> > and has other distros of Debian.
>> 	Is it easy to make "updated" install images of Debian distros?
>>  It's
>> fairly trivial with Red Hat (insert/replace RPMs, run "genhdlist",
>> burn new
>> disk(s) ).  I'd like to try an updated Storm, but have no desire to
>> attempt
>> to upgrade over a 24.4 connection from Hooterville.
>> > I won't use RPM based Distros. Debian is much more easily
>> > upgradable and very smooth to work with.
>> 	You don't use RPM based distros but know that Debian is easier
>> to
>> work with.  Interesting.  The current iteration of RPM has, as far as
>> my
>> admittedly limited Debian experience goes, every capability that apt
>> and
>> other Debian tools provide.  There was a time (and not that long ago)
>> that
>> apt really had much more to offer than RPM, but in the hands of a
>> skilled
>> user that is no longer the case.  Perhaps there's a power user out
>> there
>> that's uses both with regularity that will comment - but I've yet to
>> hear
>> from one.  Most Debian users have "never looked back" and are
>> therefore
>> unaware of the maturation of RPM.
>> 	Up2date as a tool is a bit clunky if you don't have purchased
>> entitlements to every system in your profile, but it's worth the
>> trouble
>> just to have the email facility to tell me of updates, and the
>> one-stop
>> point-n-click GUI to tell me which of my systems have known issues,
>> and how
>> deeply those issues may affect me.  Further, the Red Hat Network can
>> be
>> scheduled to push updates - I know of no such facility in Debian short
>> of a
>> cron job, and even that would lack the sophistication available via
>> RHN.
>> 	If you have no idea what I'm talking aboot see:
>> http://rhn.redhat.com
>> 	RPM - it's doesn't suck half as much as it used to.
>> > For those who are unfamiliar with apt-get and such commands
>> > they can easily read about it first in various places.
>> 	I've looked over the docs @ Debian and been left kinda flat -
>> has
>> anyone written anything more "formal"?  Pointers appreciated.  I
>> always die
>> in the "7 Levels of Menu Hell" and it ticks me off to the point of
>> losing
>> interest.
>> Don
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