[wplug] CMU installfest this Friday 7th Feb

[Steve Kudlak]

I kind of agree with what is said in the
message below mine. In the paragraph
below is what I have seen with other
software done for the graphic arts. A lot
of time the x.0 release is better if you
actually give out a lot of betas. Even if
it means cutting into your profit structure.
In biz lands cutting into the holy profit
structure is a bad thing.

Graphic Arts Software types are notoriously
bad for dumping what should be a beta onto
artists and have them debug it. The big names
in the field like Adobe don't do this as much
and are liked for it.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

bgtrio at yahoo.com wrote:

> Well, I think there's two things you can say about this, to the extent
> that it's true:
>
> 1. If the dictum that "all bugs are shallow given enough eyes" is only
> true if you have enough eyes.  The beta releases get the obvious ones, the
> wider release gets the more subtle ones.  The conservative among us never
> deploy a .0 release of anything anyway.  In fact, although I have been
> very happy with the redhat releases I've used, especially 8.0, I wouldn't
> be surprised if red hat's strategy internally was to use the consumer OS
> as a testbed for the technology they want to sell in the more expensive
> advanced server, so the faster they can disseminate the new stuff the
> better informed.  The bug report data they get has to be valuable to them.
> </speculation>
>
> 2. Iirc, redhat was one of the first distros to move to version 3.0 of
> GCC, and while they're not always bleeding edge, they do have a
> reputation for being a bit ahead of the curve with their newest releases.
>
> On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Henry Umansky wrote:
>
> > So RedHat feels rushed to release new versions?  Is that why the .0
> > releases are so poor??  I don't think that should be an excuse for quality.
> > Why do they feel so rushed anyway, and what sort of updates do they do that
> > other distros don't that makes it so buggy??  Haven't used RH 8.0 yet, so I
> > don't really have any foundation for any valid arguments either way, but
> > anyones input would be appreciated.
> >
> > -Henry
> >
> > --On Monday, February 03, 2003 4:42 PM -0500 jsbillings at mac.com wrote:r
> >
> > > For what it's worth, I've been testing the latest redhat beta, "Phoebe"
> > > today, and it's rather nice.  It feels a bit more polished.  8.1 will
> > > probably be a lot better than 8.0.... but Redhat .0 releases have always
> > > been pretty poor.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 16:07, Alexandros Papadopoulos wrote:
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> > >> On Monday 03 February 2003 15:21, Russ Schneider wrote:
> > >> > RH 8.0?  Awfully buggy!  Most of the RH x.0's are buggy.  The server
> > >> > where all my sites/music is located runs 8.0 and I can't stand it.
> > >> > :)
> > >> >
> > >> > </2 cents>
> > >>
> > >> I'm with you, I'm beginning to get fed up with RedHat and its
> > >> "I-did-it-my-way" mentality. Having said that, it's the only
> > >> distribution that I've installed so smoothly on these laptops, and the
> > >> most newbie-friendly I know of.
> > >>
> > >> So, unfortunately, this is what I know, this is what I preach :-P
> > >>
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