[wplug] Mandrake 7.2

[Doug Green]

Well that's great news for you, but I reiterate that this is most
certainly not the case with every system. Both my HP Pavillion and my Dell
Dimension have both suffered the same fate, as I outlined, on more than
one occasion. I like the distro, and I will continue to use it, but it's
important to be objective when someone asks for an opinion.

As far as Helix Gnome goes, this is a well known problem with Mandrake and
it has to do with their menus (more info can be found in the mandrakeuser
discussion forum). It is certainly possible to run Helix, but a new user
had better be well informed before they simply launch that install script.

Doug



On 24 Mar 2001, Justin Zaun wrote:

> I've been running Mandrak 7.2 sence it came out. I have never been able
> to crash the system, with the exclusion of installing a *very alpha*
> kernel module for may USB video camera.
> 
>     -- Justin
> 
> On 25 Mar 2001 11:14:10 -0500, Doug Green wrote:
> > Yeah, it's a good distribution- probably my favorite so far. If you want
> > it to crash, start installing packages manually (ie: from a tarball). I've
> > installed 7.2 about 5 times on my two machines (work and home) and I've
> > learned my lesson. However it installs- LEAVE it that way, or stick with
> > their tools for upgrading (the update tool works very well). You CAN use
> > live update after a re-boot to add the "server package" (or workstation)
> > and it will just lump those packages on top of your original choice. Do
> > NOT do any of the following:
> > 
> > 1) Compile software without using their package manager (it won't be
> > recognized and will cause mischief later- I think this is true for all rpm
> > distros, but I'm not sure)
> > 
> 
> Its like this with any RPM distro or any distro wich uses a pacageing
> system. If its not in the database it wont know its there. all in all
> its easy to do, just got to keep track of things manualy then. I run CVS
> applications all the time, untill the next version is out, then I
> install the rom right overtop of the CVS version. This works well socon
> as your configure script is passed --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc.
> 
> > 2) DO NOT install ANYTHING from their "development" updates. They claim
> > that these are beta, which may be true for other systems, but they are
> > ALPHA at best for Mandrake. KDE 2.1 is a great example. If you want your
> > system to crash, update KDE. Although 2.1 is stable on other distros, it
> > is ABSOLUTELY NOT on Mandrake.
> > 
> 
> Again I have done this and have had no problems what so ever.
> 
> > 3) Install Helix-Gnome. This will seriously mess up your system.
> > 
> 
> I'm running Helix-Gnome as we speak. It has *never* crashed on me.
> 
> > 4) Run "Live-Update" without rebooting between updates. 
> > 
> 
> Done this one too.
> 
> > This is a partial list, but basically treat the system with kid gloves and
> > it will NOT crash on you. My machine at work is being used (in addition to
> > my daily use) as a fileserver for a couple macs in my department, and
> > eventually a web proxy server with ad-blocking (squid/sleezeball- thanks
> > John! ;) ). Aside from the caveats listed above, it's an exceptionally
> > good system. However, be careful- if you find yourself configuring things
> > by hand, you are doing someting WRONG. Mandrake may not complain right
> > away, but it will come back to haunt you later. 
> > 
> > Doug
> > 
> > PS- DO NOT bother with Traktopel Betas (1 or 2). They are very "beta". 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Dr. SDM (Linux) wrote:
> > 
> > > Has anyone tried Mandrake 7.2 yet.  I just downloaded the ISO today, and installed it.  So far it seems to be a very good server.  
> > > Some things have changed though, but other than that I can't get it to crash!!!
> > > 
> > > Just to let everyone know
> > > Dr. SDM
> > > 
> > 
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