From jo2y at midnightlinux.com Sat Mar 1 20:23:45 2003 From: jo2y at midnightlinux.com (James O'Kane) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:23:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [wplug-web] openacs production url Message-ID: There is still some apache magic I need to do before this shows up as default, but here is what the new production site will look like: http://www.wplug.org:8081/ I'd like other people's opinions, but it seems a little awkward to me. I can't exactly put my finger on why. Mark, does the listing of upcoming meetings update automatically? Will this auto-create accounts for people if they use the login bar near the bottom? If so, do we want that yet? Does it matter if we use openacs or apache to serve images? Are there any wplug specific intro to openacs things you can point us to? ie. how does the budding developer get up to speed with the project, and find their own little niche to work on? Assuming we punt on waiting for evand and zman to produce their CSS guidelines, we've almost accomplished out first set of tasks established at the December meeting. Do we want to plan another planning/brainstorming session in person? whew. lots to say. -james From evan at recombinant.org Sun Mar 2 07:55:36 2003 From: evan at recombinant.org (Evan DiBiase) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 07:55:36 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] openacs production url In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4355B7D6-4CAE-11D7-A362-00039319D3BC@recombinant.org> On Saturday, March 1, 2003, at 08:23 PM, James O'Kane wrote: > I'd like other people's opinions, but it seems a little awkward to me. > I > can't exactly put my finger on why. [...] > Assuming we punt on waiting for evand and zman to produce their CSS > guidelines, we've almost accomplished out first set of tasks > established > at the December meeting. Do we want to plan another > planning/brainstorming > session in person? Z and I have finally planned to get together on Friday to work on a design. We should have something final by the install-fest. What are people doing during/after the 'fest? Maybe that would be a good time to review our goals, plan for the future, and maybe even put the site into production. Evan From wplug at badgertronics.com Mon Mar 3 09:05:05 2003 From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple) Date: 3 Mar 2003 14:05:05 -0000 Subject: [wplug-web] openacs production url In-Reply-To: (jo2y@midnightlinux.com) References: Message-ID: <20030303140505.3024.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> > I'd like other people's opinions, but it seems a little awkward to me. I > can't exactly put my finger on why. Are you thinking about the 'here's how to add new functionality to the site' being awkward, or the pageflow of stuff? I'm a lousy page designer, which might have somethign to do wi thti. > Mark, does the listing of upcoming meetings update automatically? Yep. It grabs the next 4 meeting times based on the current date. > Will this auto-create accounts for people if they use the login bar near > the bottom? If so, do we want that yet? It'll create accounts. I can turn that off for now since there's not much an account holder can do. I think it'd be nice in the future to support users adding comments. I'll go do that now. > Does it matter if we use openacs or apache to serve images? Either one is fine. I don't think we'll be needing to apply permissioning to images we're going to serve. > Do we want to plan another planning/brainstorming > session in person? sure! I'm planning on being at the installpest on saturday (I want to get OpenGL working on a PC). I've got a gig saturday night tht I'll have to take off for. > ie. how does the budding developer get up to speed with the project, and > find their own little niche to work on? Hmmm, not usre. Making a local install and walking throug the 'notes' tutorial on openacs.org is a good place to start. Wheee, ++md From jo2y at midnightlinux.com Mon Mar 3 16:09:02 2003 From: jo2y at midnightlinux.com (James O'Kane) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:09:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [wplug-web] openacs production url In-Reply-To: <20030303140505.3024.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> Message-ID: On 3 Mar 2003, Mark Dalrymple wrote: > > I'd like other people's opinions, but it seems a little awkward to me. I > > can't exactly put my finger on why. > > Are you thinking about the 'here's how to add new functionality to the > site' being awkward, or the pageflow of stuff? I'm a lousy page > designer, which might have somethign to do wi thti. Yeah, I was talking about layout. The tables on the left seem to dominate my screen, and it seems odd to have a login box way down at the bottom. > It'll create accounts. I can turn that off for now since there's not much > an account holder can do. I think it'd be nice in the future to > support users adding comments. I'll go do that now. I agree about user comments. I was wondering about the near term need for user accounts when there is a good chance we might need to reinit the production users after the amendments to the user related tables. > > Do we want to plan another planning/brainstorming > > session in person? > > sure! I'm planning on being at the installpest on saturday (I want to get > OpenGL working on a PC). I've got a gig saturday night tht I'll have to take > off for. I'll try and get there at a reasonable time, but for now we'll just play it by ear. > > ie. how does the budding developer get up to speed with the project, and > > find their own little niche to work on? > > Hmmm, not usre. Making a local install and walking throug the 'notes' > tutorial on openacs.org is a good place to start. Were there notes or slides from the talk last fall? -james From wplug at badgertronics.com Tue Mar 4 12:32:35 2003 From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple) Date: 4 Mar 2003 17:32:35 -0000 Subject: [wplug-web] openacs production url In-Reply-To: (jo2y@midnightlinux.com) References: Message-ID: <20030304173235.28788.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> > Yeah, I was talking about layout. The tables on the left seem to dominate > my screen, and it seems odd to have a login box way down at the bottom. Yeah. the widget layout I stole from the "orange and black" color scheme a couple of years ago. (thank you archive.org). I have no personal stake in what it looks like or where things are placed. Just juggling a couple of lines of template code to re-order things. > I was wondering about the near term need for > user accounts when there is a good chance we might need to reinit the > production users after the amendments to the user related tables. Good point. I agree and think we should wait in letting folks make accounts until we get the mailing user thingies done. > Were there notes or slides from the talk last fall? yep! http://badgertronics.com/wplug/oacs-slides/ Cheers, ++md From jo2y at midnightlinux.com Tue Mar 18 17:55:10 2003 From: jo2y at midnightlinux.com (James O'Kane) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:55:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [wplug-web] apache magic Message-ID: I just sprinkled some mod_rewrite magic onto apache, and the main page now comes from the openacs production page. I'll mention something to the main list once we poke at it some more. -james From evan at recombinant.org Tue Mar 18 19:17:43 2003 From: evan at recombinant.org (Evan DiBiase) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:17:43 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] apache magic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <34177AD2-59A0-11D7-9494-00039319D3BC@recombinant.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 05:55 PM, James O'Kane wrote: > I just sprinkled some mod_rewrite magic onto apache, and the main page > now > comes from the openacs production page. Awesome! > I'll mention something to the main list once we poke at it some more. Please, won't someone think of the ~evand? Looks like personal page stuff isn't working. I suppose the question is: do we want it to? Evan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 iQA/AwUBPne3Kizx06YZeciOEQLllQCfbPlj6dstYj8GrzdMoF0azun4GtkAnjVv Ft4Uz8cx1z4qbSUI2juTFXH/ =M/6p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jo2y at midnightlinux.com Tue Mar 18 20:11:28 2003 From: jo2y at midnightlinux.com (James O'Kane) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:11:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [wplug-web] apache magic In-Reply-To: <34177AD2-59A0-11D7-9494-00039319D3BC@recombinant.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Evan DiBiase wrote: > Please, won't someone think of the ~evand? Looks like personal page > stuff isn't working. I suppose the question is: do we want it to? Who cares if we want it? It's been fixed. I'm still working on fixing that annoying :8080 thing. -james From jo2y at midnightlinux.com Mon Mar 24 20:15:06 2003 From: jo2y at midnightlinux.com (James O'Kane) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:15:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [wplug-web] race condition in openacs? Message-ID: When we restarted penguin, 8081 didn't restart. I tracked it down to the wrong/bad pid in /var/www/www.wplug.org-tng/log/nspid.wplug [root at penguin log]# cat nspid.wplug.bak 1097 [root at penguin log]# ps 1097 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1097 tty3 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3 I'm guessing that the 1097 is from before the reboot. Is there something that makes openacs remove that pid file properly? Are we missing a step for proper shutdown of the server? Isn't there a way to tell what type of process a pid refers to? -james From wplug at badgertronics.com Mon Mar 24 22:38:38 2003 From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple) Date: 25 Mar 2003 03:38:38 -0000 Subject: [wplug-web] race condition in openacs? In-Reply-To: (jo2y@midnightlinux.com) References: Message-ID: <20030325033838.8613.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> > When we restarted penguin, 8081 didn't restart. I tracked it down to the > wrong/bad pid in /var/www/www.wplug.org-tng/log/nspid.wplug interesting. When started with -ikt (the 'k' for kill), it tries to kill the pid in question, and then if the process doesn't exist, it keeps going with the startup. I guess the existenace of another process (openacs isn't in effect at this time. It's like saying PHP is listening on port 80) for now, could you change the startup flags to just -it (instead of -ikt)? For our setup there's not much need for killing the previous server if one is running. Wheee, ++md From zman at wplug.org Wed Mar 26 12:20:18 2003 From: zman at wplug.org (Zach Paine) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:20:18 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Updating Meeting Information Message-ID: <37B252BC-5FAF-11D7-B1D6-000393583930@wplug.org> What is the correct way to change meeting information with our new OpenACS setup? I need to push the GUM date back a week. -Zach From wplug at badgertronics.com Wed Mar 26 15:50:33 2003 From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple) Date: 26 Mar 2003 20:50:33 -0000 Subject: [wplug-web] Updating Meeting Information In-Reply-To: <37B252BC-5FAF-11D7-B1D6-000393583930@wplug.org> (message from Zach Paine on Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:20:18 -0500) References: <37B252BC-5FAF-11D7-B1D6-000393583930@wplug.org> Message-ID: <20030326205033.19119.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> > What is the correct way to change meeting information with our new > OpenACS setup? I need to push the GUM date back a week. I've made yout zman at wplug.org web user an admin. Go to http://wplug.org/register to log in, then go to the meetings page (/meetings). Since you're an admin, it should grow Delete and Edit links next to all of the meetings. Wheee, ++md From jeremy at gunix.net Sun Mar 30 14:28:19 2003 From: jeremy at gunix.net (Jeremy Dinsel) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:28:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [wplug-web] Quotes Message-ID: We should quote these two (or just one) on the wplug page. It would be a nice welcome to new members. From: "Vanco, Donald" To: "'wplug at wplug.org'" Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:50:04 -0500 Subject: [wplug] list comment Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org I'd like to take moment and gush about the list. I really am impressed with the degree of assistance found here, and the overall attitude in giving it. When I joined several months ago it was because I bailed on my local LUG list - the signal-to-noise there was just too fierce (and I think that some of that may have bleed into my first few posts here!). WPLUG is a nice breath of fresh air. Nicely done folks. Don --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Teodorski, Chris" To: "'wplug at wplug.org'" Subject: RE: [wplug] list comment Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:44:04 -0500 Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org Allow me to second that gushing..... I have found the wplug list and IRC channel to be immensely helpful and knowledgeable....it is wonderful to have this great supportive user community From wplug at badgertronics.com Sun Mar 30 15:19:57 2003 From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple) Date: 30 Mar 2003 20:19:57 -0000 Subject: [wplug-web] Quotes In-Reply-To: (message from Jeremy Dinsel on Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:28:19 -0800 (PST)) References: Message-ID: <20030330201957.1293.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> > We should quote these two (or just one) on the wplug page. It would be a > nice welcome to new members. That would rule(tm). I've dropped them a line to make sure it's OK with them to put 'em on the front page. ++Mark Dalrymple, markd at badgertronics.com. http://badgertronics.com "now, if you start screwing around with signal amplifiers, I wouldn't suggest pointing them at your crotch." -- billings From wplug at badgertronics.com Sun Mar 30 15:23:17 2003 From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple) Date: 30 Mar 2003 20:23:17 -0000 Subject: [wplug-web] Quotes In-Reply-To: (message from Jeremy Dinsel on Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:28:19 -0800 (PST)) References: Message-ID: <20030330202317.2376.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> Cool, Don gave his OK, and I put it on the front page. ++md From hmust2+ at pitt.edu Sun Mar 30 15:41:27 2003 From: hmust2+ at pitt.edu (Henry Umansky) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 15:41:27 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Java IRC In-Reply-To: <20030330202317.2376.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> References: <20030330202317.2376.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> Message-ID: <256985916.1049038887@HELPDESK-PC13.cssd.pitt.edu> Would anyone object to me writing a java-enabled IRC client for wplug webpage?? I was thinking of writing something like that and what better way than to write it for wplug. Also, if someone would like to assist me, that would be cool. I can host it on my machine for now, until the main wpluggers can test out the code for security sake. -Henry Henry Umansky hmust2 [at] pitt [dot] edu http://www.pitt.edu/~hmust2 From zman at wplug.org Sun Mar 30 17:15:21 2003 From: zman at wplug.org (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:15:21 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Quotes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <191E2D4D-62FD-11D7-984F-000393583930@wplug.org> I was thinking the same thing. Where should we put it? -Zach On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 02:28 PM, Jeremy Dinsel wrote: > > We should quote these two (or just one) on the wplug page. It would be > a > nice welcome to new members. > > From: "Vanco, Donald" > To: "'wplug at wplug.org'" > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:50:04 -0500 > Subject: [wplug] list comment > Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org > I'd like to take moment and gush about the list. I really am impressed > with the degree of assistance found here, and the overall attitude > in > giving it. When I joined several months ago it was because I bailed > on my local LUG list - the signal-to-noise there was just too > fierce (and I think that some of that may have bleed into my first > few posts here!). WPLUG is a nice breath of fresh air. Nicely > done folks. > Don > --__--__-- > Message: 5 > From: "Teodorski, Chris" > To: "'wplug at wplug.org'" > Subject: RE: [wplug] list comment > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:44:04 -0500 > Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org > Allow me to second that gushing..... > > I have found the wplug list and IRC channel to be immensely helpful and > knowledgeable....it is wonderful to have this great supportive user > community > > > _______________________________________________ > wplug-web mailing list > wplug-web at wplug.org > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web From zman at wplug.org Sun Mar 30 17:16:46 2003 From: zman at wplug.org (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:16:46 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Java IRC In-Reply-To: <256985916.1049038887@HELPDESK-PC13.cssd.pitt.edu> Message-ID: <4B636811-62FD-11D7-984F-000393583930@wplug.org> I think we discussed this before and were concerned about security issues involved. I would support a java irc app that would *only* connect to #wplug if we could be sure it wouldn't be a risk. -Zach On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 03:41 PM, Henry Umansky wrote: > Would anyone object to me writing a java-enabled IRC client for wplug > webpage?? I was thinking of writing something like that and what > better way than to write it for wplug. Also, if someone would like to > assist me, that would be cool. I can host it on my machine for now, > until the main wpluggers can test out the code for security sake. > > -Henry > > Henry Umansky > hmust2 [at] pitt [dot] edu > http://www.pitt.edu/~hmust2 > > _______________________________________________ > wplug-web mailing list > wplug-web at wplug.org > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web From zman at wplug.org Sun Mar 30 17:18:33 2003 From: zman at wplug.org (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:18:33 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Quotes In-Reply-To: <191E2D4D-62FD-11D7-984F-000393583930@wplug.org> Message-ID: <8B1AA7E4-62FD-11D7-984F-000393583930@wplug.org> Apologies for not reading the entire thread. zman-- On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Zach Paine wrote: > I was thinking the same thing. Where should we put it? > > -Zach > > On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 02:28 PM, Jeremy Dinsel wrote: > >> >> We should quote these two (or just one) on the wplug page. It would >> be a >> nice welcome to new members. >> >> From: "Vanco, Donald" >> To: "'wplug at wplug.org'" >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:50:04 -0500 >> Subject: [wplug] list comment >> Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org >> I'd like to take moment and gush about the list. I really am >> impressed >> with the degree of assistance found here, and the overall attitude >> in >> giving it. When I joined several months ago it was because I >> bailed >> on my local LUG list - the signal-to-noise there was just too >> fierce (and I think that some of that may have bleed into my first >> few posts here!). WPLUG is a nice breath of fresh air. >> Nicely >> done folks. >> Don >> --__--__-- >> Message: 5 >> From: "Teodorski, Chris" >> To: "'wplug at wplug.org'" >> Subject: RE: [wplug] list comment >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:44:04 -0500 >> Reply-To: wplug at wplug.org >> Allow me to second that gushing..... >> >> I have found the wplug list and IRC channel to be immensely helpful >> and >> knowledgeable....it is wonderful to have this great supportive user >> community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wplug-web mailing list >> wplug-web at wplug.org >> http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web > > _______________________________________________ > wplug-web mailing list > wplug-web at wplug.org > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web From evan at recombinant.org Sun Mar 30 17:23:06 2003 From: evan at recombinant.org (Evan DiBiase) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:23:06 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Java IRC In-Reply-To: <4B636811-62FD-11D7-984F-000393583930@wplug.org> Message-ID: <2E310876-62FE-11D7-9BA2-00039319D3BC@recombinant.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:16 PM, Zach Paine wrote: > I think we discussed this before and were concerned about security > issues involved. I would support a java irc app that would *only* > connect to #wplug if we could be sure it wouldn't be a risk. Unless we're going to be running an IRC proxy or something equally bizarre, I think the easiest way to go about this sort of thing would be "a full-fledged IRC client running in a browser." It wouldn't be impossible to make it so that it the only possible actions were getting a username and going to #wplug, but security concerns are certainly relevant. I guess I'm not opposed to sticking a Java IRC client up on the page, although I don't think it'll be used very often. (I would be happy to be proven wrong.) The only question from that point on for me, really, is whether Henry would be willing to write a Java IRC client that would be pretty near neutered. Evan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 iQA/AwUBPoduTyzx06YZeciOEQJ0bACg+rtMY4DSOSf0WdHAmPL4InHsG5YAoPl2 8OpLvf9Wh8STVzye1bHOE7+p =VBVZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From zman at wplug.org Sun Mar 30 18:12:15 2003 From: zman at wplug.org (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:12:15 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Java IRC In-Reply-To: <2E310876-62FE-11D7-9BA2-00039319D3BC@recombinant.org> Message-ID: <0BC68FB7-6305-11D7-984F-000393583930@wplug.org> I see it as a potentially useful resource for people who wander onto the page and want Linux help, but are not going to join the list or go to a meeting. Then again, I don't know how many wanderers we get. -Zach On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:23 PM, Evan DiBiase wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:16 PM, Zach Paine wrote: > >> I think we discussed this before and were concerned about security >> issues involved. I would support a java irc app that would *only* >> connect to #wplug if we could be sure it wouldn't be a risk. > > Unless we're going to be running an IRC proxy or something equally > bizarre, I think the easiest way to go about this sort of thing would > be "a full-fledged IRC client running in a browser." It wouldn't be > impossible to make it so that it the only possible actions were getting > a username and going to #wplug, but security concerns are certainly > relevant. > > I guess I'm not opposed to sticking a Java IRC client up on the page, > although I don't think it'll be used very often. (I would be happy to > be proven wrong.) The only question from that point on for me, really, > is whether Henry would be willing to write a Java IRC client that would > be pretty near neutered. > > Evan > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 8.0 > > iQA/AwUBPoduTyzx06YZeciOEQJ0bACg+rtMY4DSOSf0WdHAmPL4InHsG5YAoPl2 > 8OpLvf9Wh8STVzye1bHOE7+p > =VBVZ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > wplug-web mailing list > wplug-web at wplug.org > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web From humansky at pitt.edu Sun Mar 30 18:21:15 2003 From: humansky at pitt.edu (Henry Umansky) Date: 30 Mar 2003 18:21:15 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Java IRC In-Reply-To: <0BC68FB7-6305-11D7-984F-000393583930@wplug.org> References: <0BC68FB7-6305-11D7-984F-000393583930@wplug.org> Message-ID: <1049066476.2487.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Do we keep stats for our server?? I use webalizer at work and my boss loves it. I'm willing to set that up with someone if we don't have a good stats program. -Henry On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 18:12, Zach Paine wrote: > I see it as a potentially useful resource for people who wander onto > the page and want Linux help, but are not going to join the list or go > to a meeting. > > Then again, I don't know how many wanderers we get. > > -Zach > > On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:23 PM, Evan DiBiase wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:16 PM, Zach Paine wrote: > > > >> I think we discussed this before and were concerned about security > >> issues involved. I would support a java irc app that would *only* > >> connect to #wplug if we could be sure it wouldn't be a risk. > > > > Unless we're going to be running an IRC proxy or something equally > > bizarre, I think the easiest way to go about this sort of thing would > > be "a full-fledged IRC client running in a browser." It wouldn't be > > impossible to make it so that it the only possible actions were getting > > a username and going to #wplug, but security concerns are certainly > > relevant. > > > > I guess I'm not opposed to sticking a Java IRC client up on the page, > > although I don't think it'll be used very often. (I would be happy to > > be proven wrong.) The only question from that point on for me, really, > > is whether Henry would be willing to write a Java IRC client that would > > be pretty near neutered. > > > > Evan > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: PGP 8.0 > > > > iQA/AwUBPoduTyzx06YZeciOEQJ0bACg+rtMY4DSOSf0WdHAmPL4InHsG5YAoPl2 > > 8OpLvf9Wh8STVzye1bHOE7+p > > =VBVZ > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wplug-web mailing list > > wplug-web at wplug.org > > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web > > _______________________________________________ > wplug-web mailing list > wplug-web at wplug.org > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web From evan at recombinant.org Sun Mar 30 18:34:58 2003 From: evan at recombinant.org (Evan DiBiase) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:34:58 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Java IRC In-Reply-To: <2E310876-62FE-11D7-9BA2-00039319D3BC@recombinant.org> Message-ID: <381DAC0A-6308-11D7-9BA2-00039319D3BC@recombinant.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:23 PM, Evan DiBiase wrote: > Unless we're going to be running an IRC proxy or something equally > bizarre, I think the easiest way to go about this sort of thing would > be "a full-fledged IRC client running in a browser." Uh, just noticed that I meant, "...the easiest way to go about this sort of thing would *not* be..." Sorry for any confusion. Evan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 iQA/AwUBPod/JSzx06YZeciOEQLjTgCgh3qpHLsys70DSqoRsDSsAm9FmIQAn2Mj AET8/174deaBgojsW/5DAH3D =Ol9H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From billings at negate.org Sun Mar 30 21:22:27 2003 From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S. Billings) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 21:22:27 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Java IRC In-Reply-To: <256985916.1049038887@HELPDESK-PC13.cssd.pitt.edu> Message-ID: <9DA2EEC2-631F-11D7-91F1-000393477426@negate.org> I once set this up in my home directory on penguin, with Jicra (http://www.majik3d.org/~namhas/jicra/). I had to run a port-forwarder from penguin->openprojects at the time. We could do something like that with the Netfilter setup on Penguin, if we wanted to. Jonathan On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 03:41 PM, Henry Umansky wrote: > Would anyone object to me writing a java-enabled IRC client for wplug > webpage?? I was thinking of writing something like that and what > better way than to write it for wplug. Also, if someone would like to > assist me, that would be cool. I can host it on my machine for now, > until the main wpluggers can test out the code for security sake. > > -Henry > > Henry Umansky > hmust2 [at] pitt [dot] edu > http://www.pitt.edu/~hmust2 > > _______________________________________________ > wplug-web mailing list > wplug-web at wplug.org > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web > From jeremy at gunix.net Sun Mar 30 22:59:36 2003 From: jeremy at gunix.net (Jeremy Dinsel) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:59:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Monitoring site usage [was: Re: [wplug-web] Java IRC] In-Reply-To: <1049066476.2487.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: This should be moved to another thread. I've used webalizer, too. I think it's mediocre. Is there anything that draws up some more useful statistics? Or at least prettier? Does Openacs provide anything? -j On 30 Mar 2003, Henry Umansky wrote: : Date: 30 Mar 2003 18:21:15 -0500 : From: Henry Umansky : Reply-To: wplug-web at wplug.org : To: wplug-web at wplug.org : Subject: Re: [wplug-web] Java IRC : : Do we keep stats for our server?? I use webalizer at work and my boss : loves it. I'm willing to set that up with someone if we don't have a : good stats program. : : -Henry : : On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 18:12, Zach Paine wrote: : > I see it as a potentially useful resource for people who wander onto : > the page and want Linux help, but are not going to join the list or go : > to a meeting. : > : > Then again, I don't know how many wanderers we get. : > : > -Zach : > : > On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:23 PM, Evan DiBiase wrote: : > : > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : > > Hash: SHA1 : > > : > > On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 05:16 PM, Zach Paine wrote: : > > : > >> I think we discussed this before and were concerned about security : > >> issues involved. I would support a java irc app that would *only* : > >> connect to #wplug if we could be sure it wouldn't be a risk. : > > : > > Unless we're going to be running an IRC proxy or something equally : > > bizarre, I think the easiest way to go about this sort of thing would : > > be "a full-fledged IRC client running in a browser." It wouldn't be : > > impossible to make it so that it the only possible actions were getting : > > a username and going to #wplug, but security concerns are certainly : > > relevant. : > > : > > I guess I'm not opposed to sticking a Java IRC client up on the page, : > > although I don't think it'll be used very often. (I would be happy to : > > be proven wrong.) The only question from that point on for me, really, : > > is whether Henry would be willing to write a Java IRC client that would : > > be pretty near neutered. : > > : > > Evan : > > : > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- : > > Version: PGP 8.0 : > > : > > iQA/AwUBPoduTyzx06YZeciOEQJ0bACg+rtMY4DSOSf0WdHAmPL4InHsG5YAoPl2 : > > 8OpLvf9Wh8STVzye1bHOE7+p : > > =VBVZ : > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- : > > : > > _______________________________________________ : > > wplug-web mailing list : > > wplug-web at wplug.org : > > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web : > : > _______________________________________________ : > wplug-web mailing list : > wplug-web at wplug.org : > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web : : : : : _______________________________________________ : wplug-web mailing list : wplug-web at wplug.org : http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web : -- - Jeremy Dinsel - "My mother used to say, 'In this world you need to be oh so smart, or oh so - pleasant.' For years, I was smart. I recommend pleasant." - Elwood P. Dowd From wplug at badgertronics.com Mon Mar 31 11:31:35 2003 From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple) Date: 31 Mar 2003 16:31:35 -0000 Subject: Monitoring site usage [was: Re: [wplug-web] Java IRC] In-Reply-To: (message from Jeremy Dinsel on Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:59:36 -0800 (PST)) References: Message-ID: <20030331163135.600.qmail@59.acronhosting.net> > Does Openacs provide anything? Nop, not like webalizer or analog. ++md