From jaaronfarr at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  7 17:05:55 2003
From: jaaronfarr at yahoo.com (J Aaron Farr)
Date: 07 Apr 2003 17:05:55 -0400
Subject: [wplug-web] wplug Wiki
Message-ID: <1049749555.1281.110.camel@vaio.jadetower.org>

Greetings

We need a wiki site.

Then when common questions like "Which ISP's in Pittsburgh area support
linux?" we could just point someone to the Wiki or tell someone to
update it.  It's easier than maintaining an FAQ or searching through the
mailing list archives.  It would give us some real content on the web
site and it would allow members to easily post useful information.

Comments?  Ideas?

I know we have OpenACS (or are working on it).  Is this something we
could tie into that?

-- 
  jaaron    <http://jadetower.org>



From redtoade at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 24 18:26:00 2003
From: redtoade at yahoo.com (redtoade)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:26:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [wplug-web] Fwd: [wplug] For Brian Sammon
Message-ID: <20030424222600.76027.qmail@web41504.mail.yahoo.com>

Here's an example of why a wplug member directory
online would be a useful thing.

Perhaps it should include more than just contact info.
 Fields of expertise, current "I have Linux running on
a _____", and links to home pages might be a good way
for people in search of specific help to find the
right man/woman for the job.


--- Elwin Green <bekitemba2002 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Elwin Green <bekitemba2002 at yahoo.com>
> To: wplug at wplug.org
> Subject: [wplug] For Brian Sammon
> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:47:38 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Please forgive me for using the list for a personal
> communique, but I don't know Brian's email address.
> 
> Brian, I have questions about the debian
> installation
> you did on my 486 at last month's installfest.
> Please
> drop me a line at bekitemba2002 at yahoo.com. Thanks!
> 
> Elwin G.
> 
> 
> 
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From jo2y at midnightlinux.com  Thu Apr 24 19:13:29 2003
From: jo2y at midnightlinux.com (James O'Kane)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 19:13:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [wplug-web] Fwd: [wplug] For Brian Sammon
In-Reply-To: <20030424222600.76027.qmail@web41504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0304241912570.25348-100000@yar.midnightlinux.com>

On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, redtoade wrote:

> Here's an example of why a wplug member directory
> online would be a useful thing.

I don't think there's an arguement that we should have something, it's a 
matter of coder's time.

-james




From jmkramer at andrew.cmu.edu  Fri Apr 25 21:14:13 2003
From: jmkramer at andrew.cmu.edu (Jay Kramer)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 21:14:13 -0400
Subject: [wplug-web] Re: wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #174 - 2 msgs
In-Reply-To: <20030425160005.23579.51927.Mailman@WWW.WPLUG.ORG>
References: <20030425160005.23579.51927.Mailman@WWW.WPLUG.ORG>
Message-ID: <E199EGf-0000EM-00@shale>

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, james wrote:

>
> I don't think there's an arguement that we should have something, it's a
> matter of coder's time.
>
> -james

I am looking forward to contributing to such a great linux group.  Like 
everyone else, I am busy, but l would love to get my feet wet and contribute. 
 What type of directory would you like to incorporate (i.e., perl, mysql).  
Let me know and give me a lot of time and I will do this.  I am fairly new to 
linux (2+years?) but I have been programming for quite a while so I am not 
intimidated by new challanges--I actually love it.
Jay

PS if my email doesn't get through and bounces back it is due to the fact ( I 
just recently discovered) that my wife turns off my computer when she goes 
out because she is afraid that it will catch fire and kill our dog.  I cannot 
seem to get apmd configured properly to shut down the PC so that she will 
forget that it is on.


From jmkramer at andrew.cmu.edu  Sun Apr 27 12:09:23 2003
From: jmkramer at andrew.cmu.edu (Jay Kramer)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 12:09:23 -0400
Subject: [wplug-web] Re: wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #175 - 1 msg
In-Reply-To: <20030426160005.31526.3037.Mailman@WWW.WPLUG.ORG>
References: <20030426160005.31526.3037.Mailman@WWW.WPLUG.ORG>
Message-ID: <E199oiR-0000FI-00@shale>

I've been looking into it and feel it should be fairly easy to create the 
members directory using perl.  I am new to perl but I am picking it up 
quickly.  It is such a beautiful programming language that I feel like I died 
and went to heaven.   It is possible to create the database using MySql or 
simply a text file.  I'll try both ways since I need the experience.  What 
kind of features would you like to incorporate into the members directory.

I will be working on the test directory at http://caldron.com.  This site 
goes down frequently.  My computer is also a test bed for studying how many 
times you can shutdown the computer without properly logging out.  Believe it 
or not it doesn't seem to affect it.


From hmust2 at pitt.edu  Sun Apr 27 18:08:14 2003
From: hmust2 at pitt.edu (Henry Umansky)
Date: 27 Apr 2003 18:08:14 -0400
Subject: [wplug-web] Fwd: [wplug] For Brian Sammon
In-Reply-To: 
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0304241912570.25348-100000@yar.midnightlinux.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0304241912570.25348-100000@yar.midnightlinux.com>
Message-ID: <1051481306.973.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I'm willing to work with someone on this project.

-Henry

On Thu, 2003-04-24 at 19:13, James O'Kane wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, redtoade wrote:
> 
> > Here's an example of why a wplug member directory
> > online would be a useful thing.
> 
> I don't think there's an arguement that we should have something, it's a 
> matter of coder's time.
> 
> -james
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> wplug-web mailing list
> wplug-web at wplug.org
> http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web





From wplug at badgertronics.com  Mon Apr 28 14:02:07 2003
From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple)
Date: 28 Apr 2003 18:02:07 -0000
Subject: [wplug-web] Re: wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #174 - 2 msgs
In-Reply-To: <E199EGf-0000EM-00@shale> (message from Jay Kramer on Fri, 25 Apr
	2003 21:14:13 -0400)
References: <20030425160005.23579.51927.Mailman@WWW.WPLUG.ORG> <E199EGf-0000EM-00@shale>
Message-ID: <20030428180207.2509.qmail@59.acronhosting.net>

Yippee!  contributors!

We're a little off the main stream, using OpenACS (http://openacs.org),
which is a fabulous and powerful platform.  It brings a lot more to
the table than your usual PHP toolkit.  I should be at the GUM on saturday
if folks want to install openacs on a laptop or something.

Even if you wdon't want to get into full-bore OpenACS development,
coming up with a data model, or even just pageflows for site features
would be welcome, I can do the grafting into the webiste..  Also, our
website design crew seems to have flaked out on us, so if you have
html/CSS skills and want to overhaul our look, that's be welcome too.

Chers,
++Mark Dalrymple, markd at badgertronics.com.  http://badgertronics.com
  "I keep forgetting that 'cow' is gender specific"


From evan at recombinant.org  Mon Apr 28 19:02:01 2003
From: evan at recombinant.org (Evan DiBiase)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:02:01 -0400
Subject: [wplug-web] Re: wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #174 - 2 msgs
In-Reply-To: <20030428180207.2509.qmail@59.acronhosting.net>
Message-ID: <6B8CE0DA-79CD-11D7-AD15-00039319D3BC@recombinant.org>

On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 02:02 PM, Mark Dalrymple wrote:

> Also, our website design crew seems to have flaked out on us, so if 
> you have
> html/CSS skills and want to overhaul our look, that's be welcome too.

I'm not sure what happened to Z. I think he's off doing college tours.

At any rate, I'm still interested in doing design work for the site. If 
Zach can't help, that's great, but I'll have something done by the GUM, 
with or without him.

Evan



From jmkramer at andrew.cmu.edu  Mon Apr 28 19:56:03 2003
From: jmkramer at andrew.cmu.edu (Jay Kramer)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:56:03 -0400
Subject: [wplug-web] Re: wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #176 - 2 msgs
In-Reply-To: <20030428160005.25878.90396.Mailman@WWW.WPLUG.ORG>
References: <20030428160005.25878.90396.Mailman@WWW.WPLUG.ORG>
Message-ID: <E19AITb-0000Sp-00@shale>

On Monday 28 April 2003 12:00 pm, you wrote:
> Send wplug-web mailing list submissions to
> 	wplug-web at wplug.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> 	http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> 	wplug-web-request at wplug.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> 	wplug-web-admin at wplug.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of wplug-web digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #175 - 1 msg (Jay Kramer)
>    2. Re: Fwd: [wplug] For Brian Sammon (Henry Umansky)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> From: Jay Kramer <jmkramer at andrew.cmu.edu>
> To: wplug-web at wplug.org
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 12:09:23 -0400
> Subject: [wplug-web] Re: wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #175 - 1 msg
> Reply-To: wplug-web at wplug.org
>
> I've been looking into it and feel it should be fairly easy to create the
> members directory using perl.  I am new to perl but I am picking it up
> quickly.  It is such a beautiful programming language that I feel like I
> died and went to heaven.   It is possible to create the database using
> MySql or simply a text file.  I'll try both ways since I need the
> experience.  What kind of features would you like to incorporate into the
> members directory.
>
> I will be working on the test directory at http://caldron.com.  This site
> goes down frequently.  My computer is also a test bed for studying how many
> times you can shutdown the computer without properly logging out.  Believe
> it or not it doesn't seem to affect it.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Subject: Re: [wplug-web] Fwd: [wplug] For Brian Sammon
> From: Henry Umansky <hmust2 at pitt.edu>
> To: wplug-web at wplug.org
> Date: 27 Apr 2003 18:08:14 -0400
> Reply-To: wplug-web at wplug.org
>
> I'm willing to work with someone on this project.
>
> -Henry
>
> On Thu, 2003-04-24 at 19:13, James O'Kane wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, redtoade wrote:
> > > Here's an example of why a wplug member directory
> > > online would be a useful thing.
> >
> > I don't think there's an arguement that we should have something, it's a
> > matter of coder's time.
> >
> > -james
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > wplug-web mailing list
> > wplug-web at wplug.org
> > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web
>
> --__--__--
>
> _______________________________________________
> wplug-web mailing list
> wplug-web at wplug.org
> http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web
>
>
> End of wplug-web Digest


I have the code mostly worked out as I have several canned perl scripts to 
look at.  I am now looking into security issues and good programming 
techniques to patch up security holes.  Basically, the most security issues 
include protecting against buffer overloads and access to cgi-bin.  I also 
began to write the code in XHTML 1.1 and Iearned it is best to do in an old 
browser friendly language so I need to rewrite.

Jay


From evan at recombinant.org  Mon Apr 28 20:11:50 2003
From: evan at recombinant.org (Evan DiBiase)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 20:11:50 -0400
Subject: [wplug-web] Re: wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #176 - 2 msgs
In-Reply-To: <E19AITb-0000Sp-00@shale>
Message-ID: <2CAD96F0-79D7-11D7-AD15-00039319D3BC@recombinant.org>

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> I also began to write the code in XHTML 1.1 and Iearned it is best to 
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Keep the XHTML! We want to maintain a strict separation of style and 
content.

Evan

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From billings at negate.org  Mon Apr 28 22:31:57 2003
From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S. Billings)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:31:57 -0400
Subject: [wplug-web] Re: wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #176 - 2 msgs
In-Reply-To: <E19AITb-0000Sp-00@shale>
Message-ID: <BFAD4A51-79EA-11D7-BB55-000393477426@negate.org>

On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 07:56  PM, Jay Kramer wrote:
> I have the code mostly worked out as I have several canned perl 
> scripts to
> look at.  I am now looking into security issues and good programming
> techniques to patch up security holes.  Basically, the most security 
> issues
> include protecting against buffer overloads and access to cgi-bin.  I 
> also
> began to write the code in XHTML 1.1 and Iearned it is best to do in 
> an old
> browser friendly language so I need to rewrite.
>
> Jay

You might want to look into OpenACS if you'd like to build a member's 
directory.  One of the features of this toolkit is the user accounts.

I'm sure that the other web people could describe the plans that we've 
made.  I seem to recall that we were going to have user accounts 
integrated between mailman and the web page.

One of the reasons we moved away from a bunch of home-brew scripts and 
PHP was to avoid the security problems we've run into in the past.  
Also, we can leverage the mature system to make a very functional 
website.

I'm sure that some of the other people here could explain how things 
are set up, it'd probably be a good idea to let people know how things 
are arranged nowadays.

Jonathan