From billings+ at cs.cmu.edu Mon Apr 1 13:33:09 2002 From: billings+ at cs.cmu.edu (billings+ at cs.cmu.edu) Date: 01 Apr 2002 13:33:09 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Screenshot Message-ID: <1017685990.14175.6.camel@crius.fac.cs.cmu.edu> http://web.cs.cmu.edu/~billings/screenshot.jpg I'm running xemacs 21.4 (patch 4), running zephyr, a shell, zenirc (irc client) help and some perl code. Emacs!!! No need for silly window managers. -- Jonathan Billings SCS Facilities billings+ at cs.cmu.edu From zman at wplug.org Mon Apr 1 17:13:40 2002 From: zman at wplug.org (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 17:13:40 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Screenshot In-Reply-To: <1017685990.14175.6.camel@crius.fac.cs.cmu.edu> Message-ID: I put this in the DB, so we're all set. -Zach On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 01:33 PM, billings+ at cs.cmu.edu wrote: > http://web.cs.cmu.edu/~billings/screenshot.jpg > > I'm running xemacs 21.4 (patch 4), running zephyr, a shell, zenirc (irc > client) help and some perl code. Emacs!!! No need for silly window > managers. > -- > Jonathan Billings > SCS Facilities > billings+ at cs.cmu.edu > _______________________________________________ > wplug-web mailing list > wplug-web at wplug.org > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web From edibiase at mac.com Sun Apr 7 23:51:04 2002 From: edibiase at mac.com (Evan DiBiase) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 23:51:04 -0400 Subject: [wplug-web] Board Minutes Message-ID: Well, I entered the board minutes into the system, and all the data seems to be there, but the "Events" section isn't showing up and I'm not sure why. I figured I'd just post the minutes here for reference for the time being. WPLUG BOARD MEETING April 6, 2002 The board discussed the creation of standing committees, who would head them, what kind of structure they would have, and a little bit of implementation detail. Additionally, the IBM zSeries talk scheduled for the May GUM was discussed. Attendance: * Jonathan Billings * Rob Dale * Evan DiBiase * Bobby Lynn Eicher * Steve Hancock * Beth Lynn * James O'Kane * David Ostroske * Zach Paine * Logan Stack * David Tessitor Events: The meeting started at approximately 2:10 PM. The following standing commitees and heads were generally agreed upon: * Web - Evan DiBiase * Computer Show - Steve Hancock * GUMs - Zach Paine * Install-Fests - Beth Lynn * Tutorials - James O'Kane * IRC - Jeremy Dinsel * Server Administration - Rob Dale * Mailing Lists - James O'Kane * Special Events - Beth Lynn * Public Relations - Zach Paine Current tasks facing the proposed Web commitee would include updating the board voting script to support committees, implementing ticketing, and cleaning up web pages that no longer work or are no longer in use. Jonathan Billings reported on ticketing solutions, mentioning Bugzilla, GNATS, and RT. Of the three, he suggested GNATS as the strongest contender, with RT a relatively unresearched possibility. Bugzilla was not recommended and generally considered to be a bad match for WPLUG's incident ticketing needs. The implementation of such a ticketing system would have committee heads running their respective groups, with the abilities to delegate tickets to committee members. Also, a "drop box" section was deemed desirable so that items not fitting any specific committee could be entered somewhere. The responsibilities of the GUM committee were generally agreed to be crowd control, speaker selection and handling, as well as food procurement and distribution. The Server Administration committee's contact point was generally agreed upon to be the already-established [ admin ]@[ wplug ].[ org ] address, although this was decided before the ticketing decision and so may need to be reconsidered. An extensive discussion of advertising duties of the Public Relations commitee occurred. Methods of announcement were considered, with the suggestion that an auto-announce daemon be created made and generally accepted. The comp.os.linux.* and *pittsburgh* newsgroups (as appropriate), the Tribune-Review, CityPaper, Pittsburgh Pulp, and Post-Gazette newspapers, campus radio stations, and general flyer-permitting locations around Oakland were deemed to be good locations to initially spread the word of WPLUG events. The zSeries talk was also discussed in this context, with the general consensus being that WPLUG should request that perspective attendees RSVP informally if at all possibly in order to obtain an approximate count. Additionally, there was agreement that the board needs to find out if IBM can provide promotional material and/or outreach to clients. The question was also raised regarding how many people these efforts would attract. The last Public Relations matter discussed was that of important points to stress in all WPLUG public relations communication. The only item discussed was that advertisments should mention that seating is free, but food is not necessarily so. The board discussed the desired structure for committees as well, generally agreeing that the basic skeletion would consist of a chair, members, and a contact point. The contact point was determined to be best served by a mailing list address. Non-subscribed addresses sending mail to the list would receive a "thank you" message; the message would then be forwarded to the committee chair for approval, although the Mailing List chair would also have the ability to approve or reject email. Due to these proposed changes and additions to the WPLUG structure, voting changes were discussed. It was generally agreed upon that the committees should act as advisory bodies only, with the chair of each committee submitting a proposal to the board voting system and the board having the actual vote on it. Finally, general business was discussed. Beth Lynn suggested meeting at 2:00 PM on April 13th to discuss the zSeries talk in more detail. Zach suggested holding a board meeting after every GUM. He also suggested looking over the bylaws to determine if any revisions were needed. The meeting ended at approximately 3:30 PM. Credits: Kurt Hoffman, who inadvertantly caused Evan DiBiase's computer to kernel panic, sending the first version of these minutes to the great RAM heaven in the sky. From zman at wplug.org Mon Apr 8 07:18:38 2002 From: zman at wplug.org (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 06:18:38 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Board Minutes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020408111839.JGBC18078.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@there> When I wrote the minutes code, I made it so that if it was a board meeting, the events section didn't show up. I wanted something more formal for board meetings that went along the lines of the first minutes I took: http://www.wplug.org/minutes.php?id=10 Its pretty easy to re-enable. -Zach On Sunday 07 April 2002 10:51 pm, you wrote: > Well, I entered the board minutes into the system, and all the data > seems to be there, but the "Events" section isn't showing up and I'm not > sure why. I figured I'd just post the minutes here for reference for the > time being. > > > > WPLUG BOARD MEETING > April 6, 2002 > > The board discussed the creation of standing committees, who would head > them, what kind of structure they would have, and a little bit of > implementation detail. Additionally, the IBM zSeries talk scheduled for > the May GUM was discussed. > > > Attendance: > > * Jonathan Billings > * Rob Dale > * Evan DiBiase > * Bobby Lynn Eicher > * Steve Hancock > * Beth Lynn > * James O'Kane > * David Ostroske > * Zach Paine > * Logan Stack > * David Tessitor > > > Events: > > The meeting started at approximately 2:10 PM. > > The following standing commitees and heads were generally agreed upon: > > * Web - Evan DiBiase > * Computer Show - Steve Hancock > * GUMs - Zach Paine > * Install-Fests - Beth Lynn > * Tutorials - James O'Kane > * IRC - Jeremy Dinsel > * Server Administration - Rob Dale > * Mailing Lists - James O'Kane > * Special Events - Beth Lynn > * Public Relations - Zach Paine > > Current tasks facing the proposed Web commitee would include updating > the board voting script to support committees, implementing ticketing, > and cleaning up web pages that no longer work or are no longer in use. > > Jonathan Billings reported on ticketing solutions, mentioning Bugzilla, > GNATS, and RT. Of the three, he suggested GNATS as the strongest > contender, with RT a relatively unresearched possibility. Bugzilla was > not recommended and generally considered to be a bad match for WPLUG's > incident ticketing needs. > > The implementation of such a ticketing system would have committee heads > running their respective groups, with the abilities to delegate tickets > to committee members. Also, a "drop box" section was deemed desirable so > that items not fitting any specific committee could be entered somewhere. > > The responsibilities of the GUM committee were generally agreed to be > crowd control, speaker selection and handling, as well as food > procurement and distribution. > > The Server Administration committee's contact point was generally agreed > upon to be the already-established [ admin ]@[ wplug ].[ org ] address, > although this was decided before the ticketing decision and so may need > to be reconsidered. > > An extensive discussion of advertising duties of the Public Relations > commitee occurred. Methods of announcement were considered, with the > suggestion that an auto-announce daemon be created made and generally > accepted. The comp.os.linux.* and *pittsburgh* newsgroups (as > appropriate), the Tribune-Review, CityPaper, Pittsburgh Pulp, and > Post-Gazette newspapers, campus radio stations, and general > flyer-permitting locations around Oakland were deemed to be good > locations to initially spread the word of WPLUG events. > > The zSeries talk was also discussed in this context, with the general > consensus being that WPLUG should request that perspective attendees > RSVP informally if at all possibly in order to obtain an approximate > count. Additionally, there was agreement that the board needs to find > out if IBM can provide promotional material and/or outreach to clients. > The question was also raised regarding how many people these efforts > would attract. > > The last Public Relations matter discussed was that of important points > to stress in all WPLUG public relations communication. The only item > discussed was that advertisments should mention that seating is free, > but food is not necessarily so. > > The board discussed the desired structure for committees as well, > generally agreeing that the basic skeletion would consist of a chair, > members, and a contact point. The contact point was determined to be > best served by a mailing list address. Non-subscribed addresses sending > mail to the list would receive a "thank you" message; the message would > then be forwarded to the committee chair for approval, although the > Mailing List chair would also have the ability to approve or reject > email. > > Due to these proposed changes and additions to the WPLUG structure, > voting changes were discussed. It was generally agreed upon that the > committees should act as advisory bodies only, with the chair of each > committee submitting a proposal to the board voting system and the board > having the actual vote on it. > > Finally, general business was discussed. Beth Lynn suggested meeting at > 2:00 PM on April 13th to discuss the zSeries talk in more detail. Zach > suggested holding a board meeting after every GUM. He also suggested > looking over the bylaws to determine if any revisions were needed. > > The meeting ended at approximately 3:30 PM. > > > Credits: > > Kurt Hoffman, who inadvertantly caused Evan DiBiase's computer to kernel > panic, sending the first version of these minutes to the great RAM > heaven in the sky. > > _______________________________________________ > wplug-web mailing list > wplug-web at wplug.org > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web From edibiase at mac.com Mon Apr 8 15:19:22 2002 From: edibiase at mac.com (Evan DiBiase) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:19:22 -0400 Subject: [wplug-web] Board Minutes In-Reply-To: <20020408111839.JGBC18078.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@there> Message-ID: <887E0CDD-4B25-11D6-9875-00039319D3BC@mac.com> On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 07:18 AM, Zach Paine wrote: > When I wrote the minutes code, I made it so that if it was a board > meeting, > the events section didn't show up. I wanted something more formal for > board > meetings that went along the lines of the first minutes I took: > > http://www.wplug.org/minutes.php?id=10 That makes sense, but the link you posted to does have a thorough run-down of the meeting that occurred. We should probably take a look at the process here and see what we can do. > Its pretty easy to re-enable. Cool. Not sure if we should go this way or not. Any other opinions? -Evan From edibiase at mac.com Mon Apr 8 20:40:42 2002 From: edibiase at mac.com (Evan DiBiase) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:40:42 -0400 Subject: [wplug-web] Pittsburgh! Message-ID: <6C0FDF3C-4B52-11D6-9875-00039319D3BC@mac.com> Beth has pointed out that searching for "Pittsburgh Linux" and "Pittsburgh LUG" on Google doesn't even put wplug.org on the first page of results! If nobody objects, I'd like to add some copy to the main page to the effect of "We currently meet in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania's Carnegie Mellon University," which will hopefully drive up our ranking. Any thoughts? -Evan From zman at wplug.org Mon Apr 8 21:55:23 2002 From: zman at wplug.org (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:55:23 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Pittsburgh! In-Reply-To: <6C0FDF3C-4B52-11D6-9875-00039319D3BC@mac.com> References: <6C0FDF3C-4B52-11D6-9875-00039319D3BC@mac.com> Message-ID: <20020409005520.EUAJ5479.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@there> Commence Mr. DiBiase. -Zach From rdale at wplug.org Mon Apr 8 21:34:25 2002 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [wplug-web] Pittsburgh! In-Reply-To: <6C0FDF3C-4B52-11D6-9875-00039319D3BC@mac.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Evan DiBiase wrote: > Beth has pointed out that searching for "Pittsburgh Linux" and > "Pittsburgh LUG" on Google doesn't even put wplug.org on the first page > of results! If nobody objects, I'd like to add some copy to the main > page to the effect of "We currently meet in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania's > Carnegie Mellon University," which will hopefully drive up our ranking. Instead of "we support Western PA's Linux community.", how about "we support the Pittsburgh area, and to a greater extent, South Western PA."? -- Robert Dale wplug member since 1998 From jo2y at midnightlinux.com Mon Apr 8 21:55:00 2002 From: jo2y at midnightlinux.com (James O'Kane) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [wplug-web] Pittsburgh! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Robert Dale wrote: > Instead of "we support Western PA's Linux community.", how about > "we support the Pittsburgh area, and to a greater extent, South Western PA."? We support the Greater Pittsburgh Area, including South Western Pa, Seattle, James' House, and Monkeybot's Hut. From zman at wplug.org Tue Apr 9 00:19:12 2002 From: zman at wplug.org (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 23:19:12 -0500 Subject: [wplug-web] Board Minutes In-Reply-To: <887E0CDD-4B25-11D6-9875-00039319D3BC@mac.com> References: <887E0CDD-4B25-11D6-9875-00039319D3BC@mac.com> Message-ID: <20020409031908.JXHW5479.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@there> For now, I've just put everything you entered into the Events section in the overview section. Check it out: http://www.wplug.org/minutes.php?id=16 This way the information is out there until we decide the best way to format the minutes. -Zach From wplug at badgertronics.com Tue Apr 9 08:39:21 2002 From: wplug at badgertronics.com (Mark Dalrymple) Date: 9 Apr 2002 12:39:21 -0000 Subject: [wplug-web] Pittsburgh! In-Reply-To: <6C0FDF3C-4B52-11D6-9875-00039319D3BC@mac.com> (message from Evan DiBiase on Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:40:42 -0400) References: <6C0FDF3C-4B52-11D6-9875-00039319D3BC@mac.com> Message-ID: <20020409123921.24666.qmail@above.badgertronics.com> > If nobody objects, I'd like to add some copy to the main > page to the effect of "come on by to see some hot monkeybot-on- > monkeybot action!!" which will hopefully drive up our ranking. Hmmm... that might draw too weird of a crowd. Maybe mentioning "Linux" and "Pants" would work just as well. ++Mark Dalrymple, markd at badgertronics.com "Again, why buy the software that single handedly supports an entire industry of help book writers and lets you get together with friends to talk about what you can't do and how much it crashes? I see little reason to jump on a bandwagon headed for a cliff." -- Maxx Daymon From evand at wplug.org Thu Apr 11 20:40:05 2002 From: evand at wplug.org (Evan DiBiase) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:40:05 -0400 Subject: [wplug-web] Tagging Message-ID: Hey, I'd like to tag the current wplug CVS project as a stable branch and get working on some of the things we'd (I'd, in some sense) like to incorporate into future versions of the page (my main objective right now is to make things un-crufty). Does anyone have any objections or CVS tag naming schemes? I'll probably do this tonight unless I hear something else. -Evan From evand at wplug.org Thu Apr 11 20:40:05 2002 From: evand at wplug.org (Evan DiBiase) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:40:05 -0400 Subject: [wplug-web] Tagging Message-ID: Hey, I'd like to tag the current wplug CVS project as a stable branch and get working on some of the things we'd (I'd, in some sense) like to incorporate into future versions of the page (my main objective right now is to make things un-crufty). Does anyone have any objections or CVS tag naming schemes? I'll probably do this tonight unless I hear something else. -Evan From evand at wplug.org Thu Apr 11 22:15:51 2002 From: evand at wplug.org (Evan DiBiase) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:15:51 -0400 Subject: [wplug-web] Tagged Message-ID: <36248C2C-4DBB-11D6-ADC6-00039319D3BC@wplug.org> I have set the tag on the wplug module to stable-2002_04_11 and ran cvs update -r stable-2002_04_11 in the live site directory. -Evan From evand at wplug.org Thu Apr 11 22:40:31 2002 From: evand at wplug.org (Evan DiBiase) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:40:31 -0400 Subject: [wplug-web] Branched (The Saga Continues) Message-ID: The wplug module has now been branched into stable-2002_04_11-branch and unstable-2002_04_11-branch. Please, only put bugfixes in the stable branch; use the unstable branch for new features and whatnot. -Evan From jo2y at midnightlinux.com Tue Apr 16 15:37:15 2002 From: jo2y at midnightlinux.com (James O'Kane) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [wplug-web] code request? Message-ID: How quickly could we throw a page together that lets people input their email address and a number? I think I'm volunteering myself to organize getting group tickets for Kennywood, but I don't want to keep track of the count of interested people via email. I would like a simple page that allows people to put in their email and their estimated count of attendees. An additional request would be a radio button that allowed them to pick from a group of dates. A first and second choice would be better. We won't need to display this info on any pages, so dumping it to a text file would work if it can be done without losing data. -james