[Wplug-web] CVS

[Evan DiBiase]

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Zach Paine wrote:

> > You're enjoying part of the current problem right now :-) We're spending
> > more time lately fixing the repository than developing. bk _should not_
> > be breaking this often.
> 
> What problem am I experiencing?  The problem that exists right now is due
> to user error.  Bk is not broken.

Okay, so it's user error. But it's user error that shouldn't be
happening. We should be able to move the locations of directories
without losing access to the repository for this long.

> > Anonymous users can grab the scripts that use the announcements database
> > anonymously right now out of the unstable repo. Same for the main web
> > database.
> > 
> > What symlinks are you talking about?
> 
> /wplug/announcements/stuff.php
> Everything in there is a symlink to the actuall files, which are in a
> private repos not available to anonymous users.

I don't even see stuff in there. All I see are a lot of broken symlinks,
which don't do any good for me anyway.

> > The main reason I advocate it is that it will _work_, which means you
> > actually get to develop as opposed to spend 1.5 days or more trying to
> > be able to push to the repository. Additionally, you're going to have
> > more tools available that interface well with CVS, because it's more
> > well known than bk.
> 
> Alrighty.. bk actually doesn't break that often.. actually... bk never
> breaks.  We just don't understand it.  We are just beating our way through.
>  The problem I have right now is that I don't know how to do something, and
> I'm emailing bk as we speak to ask.  I've put a lot of effort into learning
> BK.  BK basically means to us learning.  CVS would require learning, but
> less so.  It's a question of balancing effort we put into learning, and
> what it gives us back.

We've been beating our way through on unstable since December. That's
almost 4 months, and we can't get things right yet? How much learning
are we going to have to put in before we start actually getting positive
benefits?

It seems like we're "learning" bk, and all the learning doesn't seem to
help us do anything. We've put 4 months in, and gotten useful work back,
sure, but we could be getting more work done with less learning with
CVS.

> > I like bk when it works, but when it doesn't, it's painful. And it
> > doesn't work a lot.
> 
> Again bk always works I think, but we don't know how to work it.. it's the
> usuall situation with computers in general.

Would you stick with a web browser for 4 months that did pretty much
that same thing as another web browser but was harder to use and
required various confusing, badly-documented operations to be performed
occasionally when you did something like, say, try to go to a different
web site than the one you started on, or tried to rename a bookmark?

I wouldn't.

-Evan