From billings at negate.org Thu Jan 4 16:25:05 2001 From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S Billings) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:25:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] ARRRGH Message-ID: I don't understand what I did wrong, but I fixed a typo on the main page, (changed it's to its) and now it's giving me the error page when I hit the index page. I don't know what I do, but I think maybe I shouldn't be using bitkeeper, because all I seem to be able to do is screw things up. jonathan From billings at negate.org Thu Jan 4 16:35:08 2001 From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S Billings) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:35:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] ARRRGH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Jonathan S Billings wrote: > I don't understand what I did wrong, but I fixed a typo on the main page, > (changed it's to its) and now it's giving me the error page when I hit the > index page. I don't know what I do, but I think maybe I shouldn't be > using bitkeeper, because all I seem to be able to do is screw things up. > > jonathan Here's my problem: =================================== ERROR ==================================== takepatch: wplug/SCCS/s.index.php has uncommitted changes Please commit pending changes with `bk commit' and reapply the patch. takepatch: patch left in PENDING/2001-01-04.03 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So the problem is that the index.php for wplug isn't there. I have no clue how to fix this. jonathan From billings at negate.org Thu Jan 4 19:09:37 2001 From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S Billings) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:09:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] ARRRGH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I can't figure out the problem, except it seems that there is a pending change on index.php, and until it's committed, index.php is locked and won't work. Is it me who has it pending? Did I do it somehow? I can't tell. It's one of those days where I hate all this silliness. I could have fixed this easily by going to the site and editing the file by hand. But NOOOO, I had to play nice and use bk. From billings at negate.org Thu Jan 4 19:45:27 2001 From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S Billings) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:45:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] ARRRGH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I was bad, I 'fixed' the problem with this: scp index.php wplug.org:/home/www/htdocs/wplug/ From jeremy at gunix.net Sat Jan 6 19:25:11 2001 From: jeremy at gunix.net (Jeremy Dinsel) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 16:25:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Wplug-web] Edit .. patch to come Message-ID: Hey all ... I needed to try to figure out why the archives (pipermail) wasn't getting into htdig .. so I edited some stuff directly at wplug and in the bk tree at home .. I'll supply a patch later. Will this hurt the bk stuff? I hope not. I only edited, so far, search.html -- - Jeremy Dinsel - somewhere in the monkey house From jeremy at gunix.net Sat Jan 6 19:48:59 2001 From: jeremy at gunix.net (Jeremy Dinsel) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 16:48:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Wplug-web] robots.txt Message-ID: Does anyone know how to disallow a directory for all servers but the search engine being run on the local server? Or a method to get htdig to overlook the disallow in the robots.txt file? I'd like to have a search engine locally scan the mail achives, but I don't want our mail archives showing up on google ... -j -- - Jeremy Dinsel - somewhere in the monkey house From jeremy at gunix.net Sat Jan 6 23:58:40 2001 From: jeremy at gunix.net (Jeremy Dinsel) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:58:40 -0800 Subject: [Wplug-web] BitKeeper patch Message-ID: <200101070458.UAA25137@falken.gunix.net> This BitKeeper patch contains the following changesets: 1.41 # User: jeremy # Host: falken.gunix.net # Root: /usr/src/wplug.web # Patch vers: 1.3 # Patch type: REGULAR == ChangeSet == zman at wplug.org|ChangeSet|20001222062054|22834|a6d2cce9e27359dc jeremy at falken.gunix.net|ChangeSet|20010107010603|17273 D 1.41 01/01/06 20:58:21-08:00 jeremy at falken.gunix.net +1 -0 B zman at wplug.org|ChangeSet|20001222062054|22834|a6d2cce9e27359dc C c robots.txt removed pipermail disallow K 17242 P ChangeSet ------------------------------------------------ 0a0 > zman at wplug.org|wplug/robots.txt|20001222062126|27474|8f4e5c83d9c3765a jeremy at falken.gunix.net|wplug/robots.txt|20010107045512|04377 == wplug/robots.txt == zman at wplug.org|wplug/robots.txt|20001222062126|27474|8f4e5c83d9c3765a jeremy at joshua.gunix.net|wplug/robots.txt|20001224180926|06318 D 1.3 01/01/06 20:55:12-08:00 jeremy at falken.gunix.net +0 -1 B zman at wplug.org|ChangeSet|20001222062054|22834|a6d2cce9e27359dc C c removed pipermail disallow K 4377 O -rw-rw-r-- P wplug/robots.txt ------------------------------------------------ D2 1 # Patch checksum=a4031a0d From jeremy at gunix.net Sun Jan 7 18:09:24 2001 From: jeremy at gunix.net (Jeremy Dinsel) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:09:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Wplug-web] Ads and wplug template suggestion Message-ID: I think we should start adding ads to the wplug pages like can be seen at themes.org -- I have also received permission to pilfer all of those ads that we like. They are for opensource/community benefit, so why not? It would be nice to teplatize the pages and have a section where ads will always appear. I guess the easiest way is it add it to template/bot .. but that might be nasty. Anyone have a better suggestion? How about: since there are only 37 main documents, change all of them. They would look like so: grab template top grab document stand deals (location 1) grab document's internals (xml?) from repository grab document stand deals (location 2) (etc) grab bottom stuff Classes of documents could be defined and depending upon the class, different items are included. Class *: includes wplug Definitions (Education, Not-For-Profit) Class 1: includes wplug links Class 2: includes ??? Class ([a-z]|[A-Z): (meaning a word) includes the appropriate xml for said document This could lead to some fun with php. -- - Jeremy Dinsel - somewhere in the monkey house From zman at charlie.angst-inc.com Sun Jan 7 13:20:00 2001 From: zman at charlie.angst-inc.com (zman at charlie.angst-inc.com) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:20 +0000 Subject: [Wplug-web] Ads and wplug template suggestion Message-ID: <200101072328.SAA18756@wplug.org> > >I think we should start adding ads to the wplug pages like can be seen at >themes.org -- I have also received permission to pilfer all of those ads that >we like. They are for opensource/community benefit, so why not? > >It would be nice to teplatize the pages and have a section where ads will >always appear. I guess the easiest way is it add it to template/bot .. but >that might be nasty. Anyone have a better suggestion? Ok.. I've started to templatize in unstable. template/ can basically be removed. lib/head.inc and lib/footer.inc are now where the modified header and footer files are. I want to call design functions (tables..) from functions which will be in lib/common.inc. I am all for ads as long as they are Cool (tm). Opensource/thinkgeek. As long as they are not intrusively placed. > >How about: since there are only 37 main documents, change all of them. They >would look like so: > >grab template top > Understood >grab document stand deals (location 1) What does this mean/Elaborate >grab document's internals (xml?) from repository What does this mean/Elaborate >grab document stand deals (location 2) (etc) What does this mean/Elaborate >grab bottom stuff Understood. >Classes of documents could be defined and depending upon the class, different >items are included. > >Class *: includes wplug Definitions (Education, Not-For-Profit) >Class 1: includes wplug links >Class 2: includes ??? >Class ([a-z]|[A-Z): (meaning a word) includes the appropriate xml for said > document > >This could lead to some fun with php. > This would probably make sense if I understoof xml :) Sounds like a good idea though. Zach ------------------- http://duploweb.com FREE Web hosting! From jeremy at gunix.net Mon Jan 8 00:05:36 2001 From: jeremy at gunix.net (Jeremy Dinsel) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:05:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Wplug-web] [wplug-plan] Logo Contest (fwd) Message-ID: It'd be nice to have the voting software setup before links are submitted -- why not use forms that allow an upload of a file? -j -- - Jeremy Dinsel - somewhere in the monkey house ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:39:12 -0500 From: Zach Paine Reply-To: wplug-plan at wplug.org To: WPLUG-Plan Subject: [wplug-plan] Logo Contest Hey, I want to have a logo contest for the web page. People would submit wplug.org logos (perhaps through ftp on wplug.org) and and the winner is determined by whichever logo the wplug-web group decides to use. The winner would become instantly famous... or something. Can we offer anything as a prize? A t-shirt, book, or cd? Zach -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D _______________________________________________ wplug-plan mailing list wplug-plan at wplug.org http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-plan From zman at charlie.angst-inc.com Mon Jan 8 12:58:01 2001 From: zman at charlie.angst-inc.com (zman at charlie.angst-inc.com) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:58:01 -0800 Subject: [Wplug-web] [wplug-plan] Logo Contest (fwd) Message-ID: <0801018.35879@147.72.64.11> We can certainly use forms to upload. The winner is decided by whichever logo is chosen, so voting software wouldn't really be needed. Zach --- Original Message --- Jeremy Dinsel Wrote on Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:05:36 -0800 (PST) ------------------ It'd be nice to have the voting software setup before links are submitted -- why not use forms that allow an upload of a file? -j -- - Jeremy Dinsel - somewhere in the monkey house ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:39:12 -0500 From: Zach Paine Reply-To: wplug-plan at wplug.org To: WPLUG-Plan Subject: [wplug-plan] Logo Contest Hey, I want to have a logo contest for the web page. People would submit wplug.org logos (perhaps through ftp on wplug.org) and and the winner is determined by whichever logo the wplug-web group decides to use. The winner would become instantly famous... or something. Can we offer anything as a prize? A t-shirt, book, or cd? Zach -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D _______________________________________________ wplug-plan mailing list wplug-plan at wplug.org http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-plan _______________________________________________ Wplug-web mailing list Wplug-web at wplug.org http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! From rdale at wplug.org Mon Jan 8 13:42:27 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:42:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] [wplug-plan] Logo Contest (fwd) In-Reply-To: <0801018.35879@147.72.64.11> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 zman at charlie.angst-inc.com wrote: > We can certainly use forms to upload. The winner is decided > by whichever logo is chosen, so voting software wouldn't really > be needed. So, how do we choose a logo without voting? -- Robert Dale From billings at negate.org Mon Jan 8 14:00:48 2001 From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S Billings) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:00:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] [wplug-plan] Logo Contest (fwd) In-Reply-To: <0801018.35879@147.72.64.11> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 zman at charlie.angst-inc.com wrote: > > > We can certainly use forms to upload. The winner is decided > by whichever logo is chosen, so voting software wouldn't really > be needed. > > Zach Uh, what? We should have some upload form that will automatically add the submission to the voting page. Of course, we'd have to keep an eye on it, we don't need any members submitting their favorite kiddie pr0n. You know who you are. -- jonathan From billings at negate.org Mon Jan 8 14:09:38 2001 From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S Billings) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:09:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] [wplug-plan] Logo Contest (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Robert Dale wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 zman at charlie.angst-inc.com wrote: > > > We can certainly use forms to upload. The winner is decided > > by whichever logo is chosen, so voting software wouldn't really > > be needed. > > So, how do we choose a logo without voting? It's because zman has already chosen our own designs, he's just doing this to make people think that we're letting the peons have anything to do with running wplug. We have to maintain a democratic appearance, so we can continue our nefarious plans in secret. -- jonathan "Mr. Nefarious" billings From billings at negate.org Mon Jan 8 16:58:02 2001 From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S Billings) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:58:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] bk having problems Message-ID: I've been having problems modifying the main page for the stable site. here's my error: ----------------------- Sending the following csets ----------------------- 1.38 1.37 1.36 1.35 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- takepatch: saved entire patch in PENDING/2001-01-08.01 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Applying 4 revisions to ChangeSet Applying 1 revisions to BitKeeper/etc/logging_ok wplug/index.php has been modified, needs delta. =================================== ERROR ==================================== takepatch: wplug/SCCS/s.index.php is edited and modified. takepatch: will not overwrite modified files. takepatch: patch left in PENDING/2001-01-08.01 ============================================================================== I still don't know how to do this right. Why can't I make changes to the page? I admit, I have never once been able to use bk to do anything. Why are we using it again? I'm confused. -- jonathan "random walk toward success" billings From zman at angstrom.net Mon Jan 8 18:36:19 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:36:19 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] bk having problems In-Reply-To: ; from billings@negate.org on Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 04:58:02PM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20010108183619.A916@angstrom.net> I suspect two things here: 1. Since you modified the file directly, and forced it to write although it was ro, bk got screwed up as expected. 2. I went into the repository and ran bk status and saw that there were modified and and uncommited files, namely index.php. I ran bk commit and saw that the change comment was 'update meeting info'. I don't know who made that change.. might have been me. I think you will be able to push your changes now. I would suggest to all web people to subscribe to the bitkeeper-users at bitmover.com mailing list. It is fairly low traffic, but there are guys on there who respond to questions quickly, mainly because they work there :) zman -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Mon Jan 8 18:41:41 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:41:41 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] [wplug-plan] Logo Contest (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20010108134859.A16718@sjones.support.ddiworld.com>; from steve@jonescape.com on Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 01:48:59PM -0500 References: <0801018.35879@147.72.64.11> <20010108134859.A16718@sjones.support.ddiworld.com> Message-ID: <20010108184141.A1017@angstrom.net> On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 01:48:59PM -0500, Steve Jones wrote: > On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 01:42:27PM -0500, Robert Dale wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 zman at charlie.angst-inc.com wrote: > > > > > We can certainly use forms to upload. The winner is decided > > > by whichever logo is chosen, so voting software wouldn't really > > > be needed. > > > > So, how do we choose a logo without voting? > > [sigh] > > Robert, Robert... You're such a worrier. > > The best logo will be the one of the greatest size. Either > that, or the one with the most red color. These are the two > consensual chief criteria for logo coolness. Alright, alright.. enough of this :) I don't have any plans to design the page on my own and I do want to make it democratic. I figured wplug-web could come to a consensus. I see the flaws in that though, so perhaps a web voting system would be appropriate. Should we open it up to all of wplug? billings: Stop hating me! ;) zman -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Mon Jan 8 18:59:08 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:59:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] [wplug-plan] Logo Contest (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20010108184141.A1017@angstrom.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > Alright, alright.. enough of this :) I don't have any plans to design the > page on my own and I do want to make it democratic. I figured wplug-web could > come to a consensus. I see the flaws in that though, so perhaps a web voting > system would be appropriate. Should we open it up to all of wplug? It would not be up to wplug-web in any case. As an organizational matter, it is for wplug-plan to decide. My vote would be to let anyone vote. Wplug is for anyone, after all. -- Robert Dale From rdale at wplug.org Mon Jan 8 19:01:34 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:01:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] [wplug-plan] Logo Contest (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I forgot to add: do not continue this thread on here, reply to the one one wplug-plan. Thanks. On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Robert Dale wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > > > Alright, alright.. enough of this :) I don't have any plans to design the > > page on my own and I do want to make it democratic. I figured wplug-web could > > come to a consensus. I see the flaws in that though, so perhaps a web voting > > system would be appropriate. Should we open it up to all of wplug? > > It would not be up to wplug-web in any case. As an organizational matter, > it is for wplug-plan to decide. My vote would be to let anyone vote. > Wplug is for anyone, after all. > > -- > Robert Dale > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wplug-web mailing list > Wplug-web at wplug.org > http://www.wplug.org/mailman/listinfo/wplug-web > -- Robert Dale Vive le wplug! From zman at angstrom.net Mon Jan 8 18:52:26 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:52:26 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] [wplug-plan] Logo Contest (fwd) In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 06:59:08PM -0500 References: <20010108184141.A1017@angstrom.net> Message-ID: <20010108185226.A1147@angstrom.net> On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 06:59:08PM -0500, Robert Dale wrote: > It would not be up to wplug-web in any case. As an organizational matter, > it is for wplug-plan to decide. My vote would be to let anyone vote. > Wplug is for anyone, after all. > > -- > Robert Dale Sounds good to me :) Then a voting system will have to be created. Shall we tell people to only vote once and trust them? -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Fri Jan 12 23:48:01 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:48:01 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] Suggestions from GUM Message-ID: <20010112234801.A1162@angstrom.net> Here are some suggestions I got from the GUM last week: 1. Re-orgranize links by priority. 2. Make the current meeting info MUCH more prominent. 3. DT says that the colors suck and it's the worst web page design he's ever seen 4. We should have a place where people can submit suggestions and we can easily view them. Zach -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Sat Jan 13 00:14:48 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:14:48 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] CGI-BIN Message-ID: <20010113001448.A1311@angstrom.net> The cgi-bin has been given it's own repository. You can check it out via bk clone user at wplug.org:/home/www/cgi-bin Billings: Sorry if I made you angry. zman -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From jeremy at gunix.net Sat Jan 13 12:44:36 2001 From: jeremy at gunix.net (Jeremy Dinsel) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 09:44:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Wplug-web] Suggestions from GUM Re: Wplug-web digest, Vol 1 #14 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <200101131701.MAA09289@wplug.org> Message-ID: Mhm, digest .... On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 wplug-web-request at wplug.org wrote: : 1. Suggestions from GUM (Zach Paine) : --__--__-- : : Message: 1 : Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:48:01 -0500 : To: Wplug-Web : From: Zach Paine : Subject: [Wplug-web] Suggestions from GUM : Reply-To: wplug-web at wplug.org : : Here are some suggestions I got from the GUM last week: : : 1. Re-orgranize links by priority. : 2. Make the current meeting info MUCH more prominent. : 3. DT says that the colors suck and it's the worst web page design he's ever : seen : 4. We should have a place where people can submit suggestions and we can : easily view them. : : Zach 1. I have a database (pgsql) setup with the links in there already. I think it makes it easier (use an admin interface) to update, add, delete links as well as to group them into catagories. I understand that people want to use mysql; a db is a db so cool; do you agree that putting more content into the db might be a nice option? 2. Good idea -- maybe it's own box? with header and frame displaying info above others (currently this would be above "Wplug Resources") 3. DT can be right on a few things--the colors have been hated for a long time. How is the template coming for color changes? Looking at unstable, it seems pretty close. 4. There's a feedback form, but it's cgi and stupid. php would be nicer with an admin interface to send mail w/admin comments to wplug-web or delete stuff. Kinda like Mailman's mail submission form? -j -- - Jeremy Dinsel - somewhere in the monkey house From zman-wplug at linuxmail.org Sat Jan 13 14:21:49 2001 From: zman-wplug at linuxmail.org (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 03:21:49 +0800 Subject: [Wplug-web] Re: Suggestions from GUM Message-ID: <20010113192149.30277.qmail@linuxmail.org> 1. Any database is ok. I need to learn more SQL so whatever. Curious: Would it be better to have content in a database or in a lib php bit? 2. There is already a meeting info box by itself. It's easiest to see on stable, but it's on unstable also. 3. We haven't really made any progress w/ the new color templates. The colors seen on unstable are just the mac theme colors. I'd like to do something like you see on linux.com, where the background is an earth tone, and there is a white table in the middle with rounded corners containing the content. I was thinking something similar to the green we have now for the earth tone background. 4. I think that a submission form would be good. Lets go ahead and write it. Bk!! -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze From zman at angstrom.net Sat Jan 13 23:25:17 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:25:17 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] Minutes stuff Message-ID: <20010113232517.A1881@angstrom.net> Jonathan and I talked about this at the install fest: Minutes should be easier to submit. Store the text and names and such in a database. They can be entered via a web page. Then one page written in php generates the page based on the date of the minutes one wishes to see. What do we think of this? I think we need to decide on a common database. Zach -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Sun Jan 14 12:12:33 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:12:33 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] Page design example Message-ID: <20010114121233.A1792@angstrom.net> Hey guys, I rolled over and checked out the PSU LUG and was quite impressed by their page. Not only is the page clear and well designed, but it has depth. Take a look at it and try to see all of the areas: http://www.lug.psu.edu/main.php3 We need to incorporate some of these things. zman -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Sun Jan 14 15:17:40 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:17:40 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] Structure in web group Message-ID: <20010114151740.A2233@matrix.dyndns.org> Check out this page: http://www.svlug.org/teams/web-team.shtml What do you think of that? Could/should we implement a similar system? I think it is a good idea so that we are not all kicking each other with style and content changes. -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From billings at negate.org Sun Jan 14 20:25:33 2001 From: billings at negate.org (Jonathan S Billings) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:25:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] Structure in web group In-Reply-To: <20010114151740.A2233@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I was wondering if we should bother with CSS, since we plan to include a php file on each page. I think someone suggested using CSS for the basic design. If anyone knows CSS, feel free to comment. --jonathan "Uses DeCSS on all of wplug" billings From zman at angstrom.net Sun Jan 14 23:47:14 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:47:14 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] Structure in web group In-Reply-To: ; from billings@negate.org on Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 20:25:33 -0500 References: <20010114151740.A2233@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20010114234714.C2556@matrix.dyndns.org> On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:25:33 Jonathan S Billings wrote: > I was wondering if we should bother with CSS, since we plan to include a > php file on each page. I think someone suggested using CSS for the basic > design. If anyone knows CSS, feel free to comment. > > --jonathan "Uses DeCSS on all of wplug" billings I don't know much about css, but I think we should use it. It seems that we can define many styles instead of just one common one. By this I mean for fonts we can have: 'header-style','content-style','title-style' etc. -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Sun Jan 14 23:56:51 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:56:51 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] Page colors Message-ID: <20010114235651.A2694@matrix.dyndns.org> Hey, I'd like to come up w/ some colors to be used throughout the page. Being in pittsburgh, I thought perhaps black, yellow/gold, and white. What do you guys think? -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Mon Jan 15 00:40:55 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:40:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] Page colors Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:56:51 -0500 From: Zach Paine Subject: [Wplug-web] Page colors I'd like to come up w/ some colors to be used throughout the page. Being in pittsburgh, I thought perhaps black, yellow/gold, and white. What do you guys think? Maybe we should wait until the logo is decided and see what goes with it. -- Robert Dale Vive le wplug! From zman at angstrom.net Mon Jan 15 00:36:26 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:36:26 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] Page colors In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 00:40:55 -0500 References: Message-ID: <20010115003626.A2827@matrix.dyndns.org> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:40:55 Robert Dale wrote: > > Maybe we should wait until the logo is decided and see what goes with it. > > -- > Robert Dale > > Vive le wplug! Good point. We could at least pick a style/design still. -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Mon Jan 15 01:25:37 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 01:25:37 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] Ideas to kick around Message-ID: <20010115012537.A2956@matrix.dyndns.org> These are something that I've been thinking about related to design I want to have a two page. Links on left content on right. The left should have something interesting in the background and icons for links. These can be self made, or I thought we could use some of the pretty icons included in gnome and enlightenment. To see an example of what I mean by a two page check out svlug.org Later -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Mon Jan 15 11:33:01 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:33:01 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] A New Hope Message-ID: <20010115113301.E1262@matrix.dyndns.org> A Long Time Ago, In A Galaxy Far Far Away Err.. anyways. I think it's clear that it's time to start the web page anew. W/ a new design and new goals. I think it would be a good idea for all of us to get together sometime this week to discuss a new design and how we should function as a team. Is anyone else interested in this? -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Mon Jan 15 13:56:54 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:56:54 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Design Message-ID: <20010115135654.A2429@matrix.dyndns.org> What should we use for a new design. I've been looking at two sites that I like design-wise, linux.com and svlug.org. Linux.com is based in % which is good but we need to decide on colors and such. Svlug.org is hard coded pixels because of the graphical tables. I like the links on left content right idea. What do you guys think? -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Thu Jan 18 22:00:02 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:00:02 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure Message-ID: <20010118220002.B664@matrix.dyndns.org> Do we agree that we should basically re-write the page from scratch? I think that we need to decide on a basic structure. I think all of the content should be contained in a database or in include files called from BOTH stable and unstable to make content updates easier to manage. What do you guys think? How do we want to structure the new site in general? "Lets get those creative juices flowing.. brainstorm".. it sounds weird to say that so I had to put it in quotes. -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Fri Jan 19 09:20:30 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:20:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: <20010118220002.B664@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > Do we agree that we should basically re-write the page from scratch? I > think that we need to decide on a basic structure. > > I think all of the content should be contained in a database or in include > files called from BOTH stable and unstable to make content updates easier > to manage. What do you guys think? > > How do we want to structure the new site in general? > > "Lets get those creative juices flowing.. brainstorm".. it sounds weird to > say that so I had to put it in quotes. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/index.html :) -- Robert Dale From zman at angstrom.net Fri Jan 19 23:48:06 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:48:06 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:20:30 -0500 References: <20010118220002.B664@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20010119234806.A1320@matrix.dyndns.org> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:20:30 Robert Dale wrote: > > http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/index.html > > :) > > -- > Robert Dale I did some reading and it looks uber-cool. I would definately like to pursue a xml based solution. Of course rob, you would have to help out seeing how your the xml guy ;) -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Sat Jan 20 00:32:17 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:32:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: <20010119234806.A1320@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > I did some reading and it looks uber-cool. I would definately like to > pursue a xml based solution. Of course rob, you would have to help out > seeing how your the xml guy ;) I wouldn't mind doing majority work. At the same time I could teach it. The little bit of Java required to do something like this is trivial for anyone who knows how to program. There are a couple of different approaches we can take here and I'll go into more detail later. -- Robert Dale From zman at angstrom.net Sat Jan 20 09:19:03 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:19:03 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 00:32:17 -0500 References: <20010119234806.A1320@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20010120091903.A924@matrix.dyndns.org> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:32:17 Robert Dale wrote: > > I wouldn't mind doing majority work. At the same time I could teach it. > The little bit of Java required to do something like this is trivial > for anyone who knows how to program. There are a couple of different > approaches we can take here and I'll go into more detail later. > > -- > Robert Dale > Sweet! It seems like a nice system because I can just worry about design and/or content and you can take care of setting up the system. Superpimp! -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Sat Jan 20 23:02:32 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:02:32 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 00:32:17 -0500 References: <20010119234806.A1320@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20010120230232.A15280@matrix.dyndns.org> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:32:17 Robert Dale wrote: > I wouldn't mind doing majority work. At the same time I could teach it. > The little bit of Java required to do something like this is trivial > for anyone who knows how to program. There are a couple of different > approaches we can take here and I'll go into more detail later. > > -- > Robert Dale I would personally like to do this. How do you other guys feel? Rob - what are the first steps we need to take? -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Sun Jan 21 00:32:00 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:32:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: <20010120230232.A15280@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > I would personally like to do this. How do you other guys feel? Rob - > what are the first steps we need to take? Spec'-out everything we want this system to do. -- Robert Dale Vive le wplug! From zman at angstrom.net Sun Jan 21 11:59:24 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:59:24 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 00:32:00 -0500 References: <20010120230232.A15280@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20010121115924.A957@matrix.dyndns.org> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:32:00 Robert Dale wrote: > > Spec'-out everything we want this system to do. > > -- > Robert Dale > ok..here's a start: I woud like to have a common 'look and feel' across all of the pages. Basically the same colors and navigation materials. I would like to have 2 or 3 layers of xml. By that I mean, at the content level a page would look like this: Content Then is defined in another file title and those design tags are described in another file html tags here that render nav bar Font, color, size info. Perhaps more tags for page headers and such. I would like to have a set of tags for standard headers size/color/font info, black boxes as seen on wplug.org, and stuff like that. I don't know if those last two layers should be merged into one. This way people can easily create wplug.org style pages without worrying about including the right file, or how to design the pages and design people don't have to worry about content. It's still helpful if you do both design and content because it allows you to focus your attention where it needs to be and removes clutter. That is what I would like. :) -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Sun Jan 21 16:33:20 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:33:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: <20010121115924.A957@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:32:00 Robert Dale wrote: > > > > Spec'-out everything we want this system to do. > > ok..here's a start: [snipped junk describing look and feel] [snipped junk that describes implemenation] [snipped junk explaining the virtues of xml/xsl] So, what do we want this system to do? Things that I vaguely recall.. - list news from other websites - add/edit/delete other information (links, resources, etc) - automated or manually add/edit/delete news items, announcements, and meetings - add/edit/delete GUM/installfest minutes with images - member customization (from what's being displayed to look and feel) - single sign-on for website and mailing list admin -- Robert Dale From rdale at wplug.org Sun Jan 21 16:39:29 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:39:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > So, what do we want this system to do? > - list news from other websites > - add/edit/delete other information (links, resources, etc) > - automated or manually add/edit/delete news items, announcements, and meetings > - add/edit/delete GUM/installfest minutes with images > - member customization (from what's being displayed to look and feel) > - single sign-on for website and mailing list admin - a member page with photos, names, other info Please, continue to add to this list. (And neatly format it when you do :) -- Robert Dale From rdale at wplug.org Sun Jan 21 16:41:25 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:41:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Robert Dale wrote: > > So, what do we want this system to do? > > - list news from other websites > > - add/edit/delete other information (links, resources, etc) > > - automated or manually add/edit/delete news items, announcements, and meetings > > - add/edit/delete GUM/installfest minutes with images > > - member customization (from what's being displayed to look and feel) > > - single sign-on for website and mailing list admin > > - a member page with photos, names, other info - a voting/poll system; add/modify/delete polls -- Robert Dale From zman at angstrom.net Sun Jan 21 16:40:37 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:40:37 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 16:33:20 -0500 References: <20010121115924.A957@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20010121164037.A2164@matrix.dyndns.org> [snipped junk snipping junk] > - list news from other websites > - add/edit/delete other information (links, resources, etc) > - automated or manually add/edit/delete news items, announcements, and > meetings > - add/edit/delete GUM/installfest minutes with images > - member customization (from what's being displayed to look and feel) > - single sign-on for website and mailing list admin - Revamped content outlining the group - Message board? People can't get email everywhere - add/edit/delete @wplug.org email accounts -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Sun Jan 21 17:05:18 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:05:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: <20010121164037.A2164@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > - Revamped content outlining the group Yes, but is that the function of wplug-web? Seems more like a job for wplug-plan to provide these outlines and wplug-web's job to make sure they get posted to the website. > - Message board? People can't get email everywhere I'm strongly against this. I think email is so pervasive that if you can't get email these days, you can't get internet access. There are way too many (free and not) email services for this to be true. And, forums spread communication thin and lead to trouble because people are making some decisions in one place and some decisions in the other. Things get out of sync and confusion prevails. If anything, we could make a web-based interface to the wplug list, but even then I would be leary. > - add/edit/delete @wplug.org email accounts Although wplug hasn't come to a conclusion on this subject, I've given it some thought and my final position is to be against it. As I mentioned above, there are way too many email services for this to be necessary. But more importantly, necessary or not, this is not the function of wplug. Wplug provides resources pertaining to Linux. -- Robert Dale From zman at angstrom.net Sun Jan 21 17:01:11 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:01:11 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 17:05:18 -0500 References: <20010121164037.A2164@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20010121170111.A2238@matrix.dyndns.org> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:05:18 Robert Dale wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > > Yes, but is that the function of wplug-web? Seems more like a job for > wplug-plan to provide these outlines and wplug-web's job to make sure > they > get posted to the website. The way I see it, is that the only way things will get done is if we right the content and then ask plan's approval. > > - Message board? People can't get email everywhere I agree that this is not necessary. > > > - add/edit/delete @wplug.org email accounts > > Although wplug hasn't come to a conclusion on this subject, I've given it > some thought and my final position is to be against it. As I mentioned > above, there are way too many email services for this to be necessary. > But more importantly, necessary or not, this is not the function of > wplug. > Wplug provides resources pertaining to Linux. > It would be a nice feature but I see the disadvantages. At any rate we this needs to be discussed elsewhere. -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Sun Jan 21 17:39:46 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:39:46 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 16:41:25 -0500 References: Message-ID: <20010121173946.A2610@matrix.dyndns.org> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:41:25 Robert Dale wrote: - list news from other websites - add/edit/delete other information (links, resources, etc) - automated or manually add/edit/delete news items, announcements, and meetings - add/edit/delete GUM/installfest minutes with images - member customization (from what's being displayed to look and feel) - single sign-on for website and mailing list admin - a member page with photos, names, other info - a voting/poll system; add/modify/delete polls I like all of those and cannot think of any other good ones at the moment. What's the next step o' rob, master of... stuff? -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From zman at angstrom.net Sun Jan 21 18:07:14 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:07:14 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: <20010121173946.A2610@matrix.dyndns.org>; from zman@angstrom.net on Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 17:39:46 -0500 References: <20010121173946.A2610@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20010121180714.A2700@matrix.dyndns.org> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:39:46 Zach Paine wrote: > > I like all of those and cannot think of any other good ones at the > moment. > What's the next step o' rob, master of... stuff? > We should also think about how bk fits into the equation. How can it be used most effectively? -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Sun Jan 21 18:28:06 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:28:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: <20010121180714.A2700@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:39:46 Zach Paine wrote: > > > > I like all of those and cannot think of any other good ones at the > > moment. > > What's the next step o' rob, master of... stuff? > > > > We should also think about how bk fits into the equation. How can it be > used most effectively? Version control ;) -- Robert Dale From zman at angstrom.net Mon Jan 22 22:58:45 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:58:45 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 18:28:06 -0500 References: <20010121180714.A2700@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20010122225845.A1403@matrix.dyndns.org> Rob-dude: Do you have any experience w/ cocoon. I checked out the setup procedure for it, and it is going to require someone w/ root. Do you have a form of that? I know it involves setting up java, and that seems to be your bag. Can you set it up so we can all play w/ it? -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Tue Jan 23 09:35:43 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:35:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: <20010122225845.A1403@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > Do you have any experience w/ cocoon. I checked out the setup procedure > for it, and it is going to require someone w/ root. Do you have a form of > that? I know it involves setting up java, and that seems to be your bag. > Can you set it up so we can all play w/ it? A lot of our technology here at work is based on java, servlets, and cocoon. ;) Yes, I can set it up on wplug. -- Robert Dale From zman at angstrom.net Tue Jan 23 22:18:08 2001 From: zman at angstrom.net (Zach Paine) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:18:08 -0500 Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: ; from rdale@wplug.org on Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 16:41:25 -0500 References: Message-ID: <20010123221808.A2197@matrix.dyndns.org> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:41:25 Robert Dale wrote: - list news from other websites - add/edit/delete other information (links, resources, etc) - automated or manually add/edit/delete news items, announcements, and meetings - add/edit/delete GUM/installfest minutes with images - member customization (from what's being displayed to look and feel) - single sign-on for website and mailing list admin - a member page with photos, names, other info - a voting/poll system; add/modify/delete polls --- - a system so people can submit screenshots of there desktop - a 'knowledge base' of sorts. People can submit mini-howto's and faq's -- Zach Paine http://www.wplug.org/~zman/zman.key Key available from pgp.ai.mit.edu ID: 87746D3D Fingerprint: B813 EFB8 ECD0 0C34 6F7F 71DD 01E9 17C3 8774 6D3D From rdale at wplug.org Wed Jan 24 10:01:45 2001 From: rdale at wplug.org (Robert Dale) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:01:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Wplug-web] New Webpage Structure In-Reply-To: <20010123221808.A2197@matrix.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Zach Paine wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:41:25 Robert Dale wrote: > - list news from other websites > - add/edit/delete other information (links, resources, etc) > - automated or manually add/edit/delete news items, announcements, and > meetings > - add/edit/delete GUM/installfest minutes with images > - member customization (from what's being displayed to look and feel) > - single sign-on for website and mailing list admin > - a member page with photos, names, other info > - a voting/poll system; add/modify/delete polls > --- > - a system so people can submit screenshots of there desktop > - a 'knowledge base' of sorts. People can submit mini-howto's and faq's Which reminds me of.. - a facility for uploading and viewing presentations -- Robert Dale Vive le wplug!