So outside observer -- no stake in this anymore -- but I have to say -- this email hits an all new low. <br><br>Your previous emails have felt like you were airing some personal grievance and honestly this email just sounds plain butt hurt. Contrary to your belief, Installfests aren't held to solve "your problems". They are a community event where people come together to HELP people install Linux, not serve as their personal tech support. Personally, I know I'm very proud of you for solving your little problems, If you aren't getting something out of an organization you have two options: change it or quit. <br>
<br><br>Chris<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM, John Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oflameo2@gmail.com" target="_blank">oflameo2@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Seems like a lot of bureaucracy for a group of 17 people. Especially<br>
when I don't get my own problems solved at the InstallFest. It is a good<br>
thing I taught myself the skills necessary to fix my own problems. I<br>
solved the problem I had with mounting flash drives within the last<br>
hour, and I solved the problem with HackPittsburgh's shop laptop<br>
yesterday, and I probably will get Debian installed on my server tomorrow.<br>
<br>
I honestly don't see what I have to gain from suffering through your<br>
bureaucracy and protectionism. Someone please remind me what I am<br>
getting out of this.<br>
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On 12/08/2012 09:34 PM, Pat Barron wrote:<br>
> On 12/8/2012 9:00 PM, John Lewis wrote:<br>
>> Well I propose a change to the bylaws.<br>
><br>
> Without getting into whether this specific proposal is a good idea or<br>
> not, I will say that it's a decent example of how one would propose a<br>
> change the the bylaws (and even if not advanced on it's own, could form<br>
> an example of how any future bylaws "update" proposals could look) -<br>
> point out what you want to change, point out what you want to change it<br>
> to, and give some kind of rationale as to why. Because the membership<br>
> are the only ones who can change the bylaws, and you need to show them<br>
> that your proposal is a good idea.<br>
><br>
> It's any member's right to propose an amendment to the bylaws, but<br>
> remember that sending a note to a mailing list doesn't create a "valid"<br>
> proposal. Section 10 of the bylaws (along with the Special Rule of<br>
> Order regarding Absentee Balloting) describes how it's done.<br>
><br>
> --Pat.<br>
><br>
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