[wplug-plan] Making the big changes

greg simkins gregsimkins at me.com
Wed Dec 5 17:54:35 EST 2012


It may be a culture thing as much as a by-law thing. I just find that I enjoy WPLUG much better if I avoid the politics. Great bunch of folks and I always learn something interesting.

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On Dec 6, 2012, at 7:38 AM, Pat Barron <pat at lectroid.com> wrote:

> Greg,
> 
> I wonder if you could comment briefly on what problems you see in the WPLUG bylaws?  I mean, I have my own opinions about things that I'd like to see changed, but I'd like to hear what others have to say.
> 
> I've been poking around at the bylaws of some professional organizations, and haven't found one that isn't largely managed by a board of directors (or some similar structure) elected by the membership in a competitive election.  I can tell you for instance that the ACM works that way (plus, they also have paid leadership positions such as an executive director that is hired by the board).  Do you have any organizations whose governance models you particularly admire?  (I did try to look up the bylaws of the ASQ, but they apparently make their bylaws available only to members of the organization.)
> 
> There's also the IETF model of doing things ("We believe in rough consensus, and working code" - in other words, if you want to do something, go do it, and work to convince others that it's a good idea), but even there there's an awful lot of politics, and it sort of assumes access to resources in a way we don't necessarily have.  Much of the work done by organizations like the IETF is       actually funded by third-parties with relatively deep pockets, so in terms of an organization like WPLUG, it'd be similar to telling people who have an idea that they need to go implement it and pay for it themselves, out of pocket - and then maybe the organization would pick it up if it seems like it's working well - and I'm not sure how well that would fly in an organization like ours.
> 
> --Pat.
> 
> On 12/05/2012 3:59 PM, simkins greg wrote:
>> Hi Justin, 
>> 
>> The key word in your comments is "...because of our bylaws".  Yes, they should be changed.  I am not sure how to do that and I will likely be unavailable for your convention, unless it happens in late January/early February (I expect to be home for a few weeks).  I found out how WPLUG differs from every other organization to which I belonged when I was asked to stand for office.  Normally, this would be an honor and I was honored, until I found out that I was just an extra name on the list to make the election competitive.  I was hurt and insulted and stopped participating in any WPLUG politics. I see no reason for a competitive election.  If there is a controversial issue, then I guess that requires a competitive election, but normally professional groups operation by consensus.  Volunteer labor is hard enough to come by without such nonsense.  
>> 
>> If you don't want to throw out the bylaws and adopt model bylaws from a healthy organization, then perhaps you could benchmark off of any nationally successful organization.  I         belonged to ASM and ASQ for most of my career.  
>> 
>> I mean these comments to be constructive.  I still enjoy WPLUG meetings when I can make it.  I just cannot abide WPLUG politics.  
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
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