[wplug-board] Re: [wplug-plan] Virtual Hosting
Bill Moran
wmoran at potentialtech.com
Mon Jun 18 15:17:57 EDT 2007
In response to "Patrick Wagstrom" <pwagstro at andrew.cmu.edu>:
> > Regarding what the budget is, that's for the board to decide. We worked
> > under the assumption that we could spend no more than $25 / per month on
> > hosted services. We also worked under the assumption that it would be
> > appropriate for the board to decide what name is on the account and where
> > the payments come from.
>
> That's why we need more information and some of these questions answered. I'm not trying to poo-poo this idea, in fact, I'm very much for it. I've looked into Linode and we can get a very good setup that will most likely meet all of our needs for a very low price.
>
> > As far as competitive shopping, I will draw that up.
>
> I posted a message to WPLUG-plan a few months ago with a few months ago with a few comparison points. I don't have linode in the list there, but I really should. You can use that as a starting point to compare everything. I too think that Linode is the best choice, but having it written down is helpful.
>
> IMPORTANT: make sure you ask about IRC bots. Many places don't allow them. I'm fine with killing monkeybot, but some people seem to actually like having it around.
>
> > The overall outcome of our meeting was that for under $300 / year, we can
> > eliminate all dependencies on CMU or other charitable hosting sources. We
> > have a plan to proceed on this path, pending board approval.
>
> Yup, that's exactly what we're trying to do. Unless a real hosting provider offers us something for free with a formal agreement, what you're doing is the best choice.
>
> > If we decide to use another provider (e.g. pair), it doesn't have to alter
> > our plans too much. The plan of attack for eliminating hosting
> > dependencies is loosely coupled to the actual service we choose!
>
> Not entirely, we clearly want something that gives us root over our own virtual machine. Pair networks does not do that, you're on a shared server with significant restrictions in place on what you can actually do.
>
> > Clearly the board must be willing to spend some money here. Otherwise
> > we'd be trading one free service for another, getting nowhere in the
> > process, and wasting our time. We want to move forward, because we want
> > to do bigger and better things than worry about where to put a wiki and 10
> > odd mailing lists.
>
> We've already discussed it and are perfectly willing to spend money here, that's part of the reason for dues. We've discussed it in the past and I think everyone is in favor of it. People mentioned free services, but they're not going to pan out -- and we need a level of reliability that is greater than a rack that happens to sit in someones basement.
>
> Good work on looking at all of this. I really appreciate the effort.
I just want to +1 on everything Patrick said.
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Bill Moran
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