[wplug-board] Re: [wplug-plan] Virtual Hosting

Bill Moran wmoran at potentialtech.com
Mon Jun 18 15:17:57 EDT 2007

In response to "Patrick Wagstrom" <pwagstro at andrew.cmu.edu>:

> > Regarding what the budget is, that's for the board to decide.  We worked
> > under the assumption that we could spend no more than $25 / per month on
> > hosted services.  We also worked under the assumption that it would be
> > appropriate for the board to decide what name is on the account and where
> > the  payments come from.
> That's why we need more information and some of these questions answered.  I'm not trying to poo-poo this idea, in fact, I'm very much for it.  I've looked into Linode and we can get a very good setup that will most likely meet all of our needs for a very low price.
> > As far as competitive shopping, I will draw that up.
> I posted a message to WPLUG-plan a few months ago with a few months ago with a few comparison points.  I don't have linode in the list there, but I really should.  You can use that as a starting point to compare everything.  I too think that Linode is the best choice, but having it written down is helpful.
> IMPORTANT: make sure you ask about IRC bots.  Many places don't allow them.  I'm fine with killing monkeybot, but some people seem to actually like having it around.
> > The overall outcome of our meeting was that for under $300 / year, we can
> > eliminate all dependencies on CMU or other charitable hosting sources.  We
> > have a plan to proceed on this path, pending board approval.
> Yup, that's exactly what we're trying to do.  Unless a real hosting provider offers us something for free with a formal agreement, what you're doing is the best choice.
> > If we decide to use another provider (e.g. pair), it doesn't have to alter
> > our plans too much.  The plan of attack for eliminating hosting 
> > dependencies is loosely coupled to the actual service we choose!
> Not entirely, we clearly want something that gives us root over our own virtual machine.  Pair networks does not do that, you're on a shared server with significant restrictions in place on what you can actually do.
> > Clearly the board must be willing to spend some money here.  Otherwise 
> > we'd be trading one free service for another, getting nowhere in the 
> > process, and wasting our time.  We want to move forward, because we want
> > to do bigger and better things than worry about where to put a wiki and 10
> > odd mailing lists.
> We've already discussed it and are perfectly willing to spend money here, that's part of the reason for dues.  We've discussed it in the past and I think everyone is in favor of it.  People mentioned free services, but they're not going to pan out -- and we need a level of reliability that is greater than a rack that happens to sit in someones basement.
> Good work on looking at all of this.  I really appreciate the effort.

I just want to +1 on everything Patrick said.

Bill Moran

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