I think they look good too. If you're in the mood to add some photos to them, I uploaded some that I took (and a few from John Vukovic) to <http://www.wplug.org/files/wplug-vm-photosforslides.zip>. Vance Kochenderfer | "Get me out of these ropes and into a vkochend at nyx.net | good belt of Scotch" -Nick Danger