[wplug-plan] Meetting idea a debate stemming from the debate on line from the subject "On the subject of wardriving..."

Richard Farina r.farina at adelphia.net
Wed Mar 30 14:31:12 EST 2005


Of course I will volunteer for a debate on this topic.  Drew would also be 
there, I can assure this.

-Rick Farina

At 12:56 PM 3/30/2005, Michael P. O Connor wrote:
>Also if we were to do a debate, maybe we should not debate "wardriving"
>but debate "The act of finding hotspots and mapping them on a public
>accessible web site" or "Finding and using unsecured wireless access
>points" or some other similar topic that should be fully spelled out,
>since we don't agree on the def of "wardriving" is and there are even
>arguments over what the definition is there has been at lest 2
>definitions I seen posted to the list.
>But I would like to stress NO NAME CALLING (sorry for shouting there,
>but I seen over the last 2 days a bit of that going on, on the main
>list, and for a debate to be done well, we must stick only to the ideas,
>and remember that all involve are [for the most part] interested in the
>truth)
>
>
> > 1) also we need to keep it nice, no name calling
> >
> > 2) also I will volentear to do eather jugde if needed (but I would say I
> > might not be the best since I have stated my side and it could look bad)
> > or to be on one side.
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > In theory a debate could work but as of now there are several important
> > > pieces that are missing.
> > >
> > > 1. A formal question in which to debate.
> > > 2. A definition of wardriving.
> > > 3. Someone to take the Affirmative
> > > 4. Someone to take the Opposed
> > > 5. A more structured debate format with giving time to both sides to
>state
> > > the positions and rebuttal
> > > 6. Someone to judge to we keep things on time and enforce who is
>allowed
> > > to speak when
> > >
> > > Anyone want to volunteer?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Beth Lynn
> > >
> > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Jonathan S Billings wrote:
> > >
> > > > Michael P. O Connor wrote:
> > > >> This has been a very intersting talk, on the wplug list.  And I have
> > > >> gotten an idea, is it posable (with the blessings of the board) that
> > > >> maybe we could scedual a Saterday for a full debate, we could get the
> > > >> different people on this list that have already done some debate
>on it,
> > > >> mail each other so they can prepear for it. here is a suggested
>sqedula
> > > >>
> > > >> 1) Each side will have 30 minutes to present their side of the
>argument
> > > >> 2) 30 Miniute break to prepare a responce to the other sides points
> > > >> 3) present their responces
> > > >> 4) Questions from the audiance to the two sides (how ever much
>time is
> > > >> needed to anser questiosn or till we have to leave)
> > > >
> > > > I think this is fairly well done on the mailing list.  It'd be nice if
> > > > some people got together and did a joint presentation on what
>Wardriving
> > > > is, but I don't think that a public debate would be very easy to run.
> > > > People in WPLUG are too argumentative.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jonathan S. Billings <billings at negate.org>
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