<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Zachary, </div><div><br></div><div>Check out <a href="http://www.papen.us/Default.aspx">http://www.papen.us/Default.aspx</a></div><div><br></div><div>The people continually change, but I found PAPEN to be enormously helpful when I was looking for work. </div><div><br></div><div>Greg<br><br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Sent from</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> Pittsburgh </span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">v</span><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">ia my iPhone 5S</span></div></div><div><br>On Jan 9, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Zachary Uram <<a href="mailto:netrek@gmail.com">netrek@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Pat that is very interesting. How exactly does one acquire these personal contacts?<br><br>Zach<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Pat Barron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pat@lectroid.com" target="_blank">pat@lectroid.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The best way I've found to handle this is by personal networking - contacting people you think might have connections in the specific area you want to work in, and making discreet inquiries. Just be sure to make it clear that you don't want the candidate's identity made widely known. This is a common kind of situation, and people understand it.<br>
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It's crucial to build connections for this type of search in advance, before such a need arises - that way, you already have people to talk to when the need presents itself, and you don't need to scramble around searching in a situation where time may be a factor. If you don't already have the appropriate connections before you even start the search, it may already be too late.<br>
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My own experience is that most of the best jobs are found in exactly this way - by personal networking. The usefulness of searching via things like job postings is often limited. Frequently, either a job posting (particularly one that's been posted for a long time) is looking for the mythical "pink squirrel" that they're probably never going to find (and the current wisdom seems to be that it's better to leave a job unfilled until you find the absolutely "perfect candidate", rather than hiring someone who's smart and could pick up the necessary skills quickly, but doesn't have the exact "pink squirrel" laundry list that's being sought), or else by the time a posting goes up the employer already knows exactly who they're going to hire and there's only a job posting in the first place because the employer has company policy or legal requirements to post the job, but they don't intend to hire (or even interview) anyone who "applies" for it, because it's effectively already filled....<br>
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--Pat.<br>
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Do you have any tips on conducting a successful stealth job search?<br>
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One of the WPLUG board members may want to work closer to a certain<br>
hacker space.<br>
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