[wplug-erie] Is there any interest in generating revenue for the LUG?

[T Johnson]

At this point perhaps it would be helpful to point out that ErieLUG is an open group,and if one from PSB were interested in joining to see more about Linux they would be welcome to do so. Perhaps then one of their own could,in time,be comfortable with doing the project themselves. It may even be interesting for the group to observe such an endeavor. But at this time I´m inclined to agree with the others that being contracted to do this may be a bit too much. But to have this kind of experience happen somewhere inside or near the group,or in the distant future as a pet project (maybe not for financial gain) could benefit all. I would like for us to be able to have some kind of project in the next year,even if we were to help with Docs and How-To´s just to give us some purpose in the community. But again,that´s just an opinion.  Tom 
PS: I´m actually kind of flattered that they would present this to us. 

Tom's AutoQuote: "You have moved your Mouse, Windows will now Reboot"



--- Just Bill <bill at justbill.org> wrote:
I would agree with the general opinion forming.  I don't see Erie LUG
needing a large revenue stream at this point anyways.  If a memeber
wanted to do this for their own personal profit, I don't have a problem
with that, but as an Erie LUG thing I"m against it.

Just Bill
www.justbill.org

 On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 12:26, Teodorski, Chris wrote:
> Personally, I do not think the LUG should be involved in commercial
> ventures like this.  
> 
> Acting as an intermediary between companies, ie. Local companies
> looking for Linux professional or companies offering Linux services
> would be fine.  However I don't think the LUG should take on a project
> like this.   I for one do not feel that we should sign any contract as
> a LUG (unless one of us is a lawyer and I just don't know it and would
> be willing to review the contract and represent us in any contract
> disputes.)  
> 
> We have several people involved in the LUG who either run their own
> company or work for a company that offers services similar to what is
> be requested.  I feel the LUG should offer to put those parties in
> contact with the manufacturing company and nothing more.  
> 
> Just an opinion and you know what they say about those.....
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Moran [mailto:wmoran at potentialtech.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: wplug-erie at wplug.org
> Subject: Re: [wplug-erie] Is there any interest in generating revenue
> for the LUG?
> 
> MIS wrote:
> > One of my pet projects is to increase technology development within 
> > the local area. That being said, is there any interest from the Erie
> > LUG in developing a commercial grade website for a locally base 
> > manufacturing company in exchanged for a healthy contribution to the
> > LUG? See the attached requirements.
> 
> Off the bat, I wouldn't agree to much based on this document.  It
> bla-bla- blas a lot without any specifics.
> 
> The only thing I would say based on this document (if my company were
> involved) is "yes, we're qualified."
> 
> Number 2 is extremely sweeping!  It could be hundreds of hours just
> for that alone ... do you have any idea how long it can take to test
> every imaginable screen size and browser configuration?  I would want
> a list of the "wide variety of client systems" they want to support,
> otherwise you could be expected to support everything, back to
> Netscape 1 on Windows 3.1.
> 
> #8 is pretty broad as well.  Unlimted updates over a period?  That's
> crazy ...
> you're asking to be bent over if you accept that!
> 
> Whether or not you can organize the LUG to support such a contract is
> a question beyond my ability to answer.  If this is their best attempt
> at an RFQ, I would be very careful in responding.  Make sure to set
> limits to all the things they imply will be unlimited, or you'll end
> up WAY over your head!
> 
> It's impossible to provide a quote based on this RFQ in any case ...
> as it doesn't say how many pages, doesn't give a quantity for
> anything.  A site with only static pages sounds simple, until you find
> out there's a seperate page for each product, and it takes up 1000
> pages!
> 
> I hate to be all negative about this, but I just got out of a contract
> where we were supposed to supply unlimited service for a fixed price,
> and I know how much that can suck.  If you can nail down some limits
> on these things, it may be a good project ... then you just need a
> committment from LUG members to participate.
> 
> --
> Bill Moran
> Potential Technologies
> http://www.potentialtech.com
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