[wplug-erie] Is there any interest in generating revenue for the LUG?

Teodorski, Chris cteodorski at MahoningCounty.org
Tue May 4 12:26:30 EDT 2004

Personally, I do not think the LUG should be involved in commercial ventures
like this.  

Acting as an intermediary between companies, ie. Local companies looking for
Linux professional or companies offering Linux services would be fine.
However I don't think the LUG should take on a project like this.   I for
one do not feel that we should sign any contract as a LUG (unless one of us
is a lawyer and I just don't know it and would be willing to review the
contract and represent us in any contract disputes.)  

We have several people involved in the LUG who either run their own company
or work for a company that offers services similar to what is be requested.
I feel the LUG should offer to put those parties in contact with the
manufacturing company and nothing more.  

Just an opinion and you know what they say about those.....


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Moran [mailto:wmoran at potentialtech.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:33 AM
To: wplug-erie at wplug.org
Subject: Re: [wplug-erie] Is there any interest in generating revenue for
the LUG?

MIS wrote:
> One of my pet projects is to increase technology development within 
> the local area. That being said, is there any interest from the Erie 
> LUG in developing a commercial grade website for a locally base 
> manufacturing company in exchanged for a healthy contribution to the 
> LUG? See the attached requirements.

Off the bat, I wouldn't agree to much based on this document.  It bla-bla-
blas a lot without any specifics.

The only thing I would say based on this document (if my company were
involved) is "yes, we're qualified."

Number 2 is extremely sweeping!  It could be hundreds of hours just for that
alone ... do you have any idea how long it can take to test every imaginable
screen size and browser configuration?  I would want a list of the "wide
variety of client systems" they want to support, otherwise you could be
expected to support everything, back to Netscape 1 on Windows 3.1.

#8 is pretty broad as well.  Unlimted updates over a period?  That's crazy
you're asking to be bent over if you accept that!

Whether or not you can organize the LUG to support such a contract is a
question beyond my ability to answer.  If this is their best attempt at an
RFQ, I would be very careful in responding.  Make sure to set limits to all
the things they imply will be unlimited, or you'll end up WAY over your

It's impossible to provide a quote based on this RFQ in any case ... as it
doesn't say how many pages, doesn't give a quantity for anything.  A site
with only static pages sounds simple, until you find out there's a seperate
page for each product, and it takes up 1000 pages!

I hate to be all negative about this, but I just got out of a contract where
we were supposed to supply unlimited service for a fixed price, and I know
how much that can suck.  If you can nail down some limits on these things,
it may be a good project ... then you just need a committment from LUG
members to participate.

Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
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